Showdown – Heavy Hitters Edition

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Our last showdown pitted two traditionally overrated 4x4s against one another. As of right now, the Scout Travelall’s beating out the early Bronco by 6%. Being 1/3 the price will do that for ya.

We’re keeping it 4×4 for right now, if only because we just couldn’t pass these up. You better pray to Petrolius, the god of oil reserves that crude prices stay low, because today we’re talking about some thirsty beasts: A 460ci powered Centurion and a Grand Wagoneer.

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If you’re not familiar with the Centurion, you should be. Sold at Your Local Ford Dealer but build by Centurion Vehicles, they were a mash-up of Bronco and F250/350 crew cab. Does your Suburban have a removable rear roof section? No, no it does not. Does your Avalanche not suck have a Powerstroke Diesel or 460ci big block as an option? That’s what we thought. From the ad, all we know is this example’s sporting orangered paint, a 460ci big block, Holley cab and Flowmaster exhaust. $2250 is about 38¢ per pound.

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Maybe you don’t need 3 rows of seating or people constantly reminding you that a certain Alaskan also had one. Maybe you prefer the classic lines of one of the longest-running vehicles of all time (1963-1991). Maybe you’d prefer to skip the garish orangered in favor of some subdued colors and classy wood decal applique trim. You’ll also have the opportunity to drive one of the last carbureted V8s sold in the US. Luckily, this ’89 Waggy is has recently had its “carbutator” rebuilt. It’s got new tires and what appears to be 3″ of lift, which really improves on the typically “saggy Waggy” stance these things end up with. If you really want it, you might want to act fast. I’m afraid The_Missus will force me to buy it and get started on that Cummins-swapped biodiesel-fueled tow rig project she’s been dreaming of.

$1800 makes a great starting point. Craigslist El Lay.

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46 responses to “Showdown – Heavy Hitters Edition”

  1. Paul Y. Avatar
    Paul Y.

    Centurions are cool, but I'd take the Jeep. After all, it *does* have a rebuilt carbutator.
    ….but in all seriousness, Grand Wagoneers are awesome. On a related note, I've been seeing a 2-door Wagoneer/Cherokee a lot lately. Those are probably my 2nd favorite Jeeps, after the J-trucks.

    1. CptSevere Avatar

      There's a guy here in town who has a primered Cherokee, with a gnarly steel front bumper with a winch, and the biggest offroad meats possible stuffed into the wheelwells. You'd like it, I know I sure do. I'd love to have it.

  2. soo΄pәr-bādd75 Avatar

    Grand Wagoneer all the way, baby! The only extra long Ford SUV I'd take over the gorgeous wagonny goodness of the Jeep would be an Excursion, and it would have to be packing 7.3 litres (see what I did there?) of PowerStroke turbodiesel. The fact that the GW would save me $450 is only icing on the wood-paneled cake.

  3. ptschett Avatar

    I'm voting Jeep, but the Centurion is almost exactly the kind of thing I doodled in my notebooks when I was twelve.

  4. smalleyxb122 Avatar

    Trying really hard to make my head explode? I love me some Jeepy goodness, and I'm typically not a fan of the blue oval, but damned if that Centurion doesn't speak to me. I gotta give my vote to the Ford.
    I'd vote with my wallet, if it were closer.

  5. Goingincirclez Avatar

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    I can't decide! What did I do to deserve this torture?

  6. CeRuLeaNBLu Avatar

    Gotta be the Woody Wagoneer just so I could put a "Got wood?" bumper sticker on it.

  7. Charles_Barrett Avatar

    When I was a wee lil' tyke, my Grandma in Arizona drove a succession of Chrysler New Yorker Town & Country wagons. When all us grandkids visited for the summer, I was oldest (and male!) and got to ride up front with Grandma; the rest fought for the rear-facing third-row seats. Grandma bought new cars every two years, and when she was forced by brand-loyalty into a K-car Town & Country wagon with a Mitsu-sourced engine, she was NOT impressed. She replaced THAT car two years later with a Jeep Grand Wagoneer. The build-quality was abysmal, but her bird-watching club loved how it could navigate on dirt roads for their outings…!
    Grandma's gone now, as is her Grand Wagoneer, but my memories cast my vote for the Jeep…!

    1. Tim Odell Avatar
      Tim Odell

      Real estate agents love Wagoneers, as all the pillars are super-thin, giving excellent outward visibility for all occupants. There's a dude who specializes in perfectly rebuilding/restoring them. I believe he sells them for ~$20k, but they're near-perfect.

      1. DeadinSideInc Avatar

        The guy runs
        I recall the Wagoneer featuring in every later 80s early 90s movie for some reason.
        I'd get the Centurion though, it is bad ass.

        1. Tim Odell Avatar
          Tim Odell

          I'm truly surprised the Waggy's ahead in the votes.
          They're both cool, but I would've expected more Centurion support for the WTF factor.

  8. Black Steelies Avatar
    Black Steelies

    Wagoneer hands down FTW. I have always lusted over these stupid things since I was a kid. I always thought of making one into an off road machine since they used to be such doofy family haulers, but these days i could really appreciate a totally stock Wagoneer. I have to commend the owner on a lift job that actually looks pretty tastefully done. $1800 is an amazing price. Used Jeeps always command pretty high prices.
    I have to admit, Ive never even heard of a Centurion but that thing is pretty damn sweet. I've just never really been into Fords.

    1. Black Steelies Avatar

      upon reviewing the Centurion, I kinda wanna try that on an old 'burban. I always liked suburbans too. How hard would it be to slap a K5 top onto a suburban body?

      1. Tim Odell Avatar
        Tim Odell

        Easy, if you're halfway decent at bodywork. Given that they were largely unchanged from 73-91, you can find them for dirt cheap (at least here in SoCal).
        I've seen a Blazer soft top on a similar-vintage 'Burbo. Looked pretty sweet. The thing was a monster running like 40" tires and a flat-black paintjob.
        Of course, you could just get an Avalanche. They briefly offered them in 3/4 ton spec, even available with the 8.1L big block.

        1. Black Steelies Avatar

          Sweet! Yea here in Upstate NY there's not a whole lot to pick from that isnt already chewed up and spit out by mother nature herself. Man it'd be great to live out west where the sun always shines and rust doesnt exist. I'd prolly be just as happy with a vintage burban' tho without the body work.
          And yea, the Avalanche was real cool when it first came out. The 3/4 ton is def what I'd look for. I was like 10 or something so you know I was on that shit, but looking back 10 years later, they're kinda past their intrigue. Maybe give them 15 more years and they'll be cool again!

          1. Tim Odell Avatar
            Tim Odell

            "I was like 10 or something so you know I was on that shit,"
            You just made me feel old…and I'm not that old.
            Dammit. I am that old.

          2. longrooffan Avatar

            Yeah, and this olelongrooffan is even older!!!! Sh!t!!

      2. P161911 Avatar

        I think I have rather have the Suburban barn doors on a K5. Those roll down rear windows and big tailgates with only an interior handle were always a pain.

  9. SeanKHotay Avatar

    Probably not a 3" lift as they were hard to come by as only one SEMA spring manufacturer made them (I got mine used by begging the retailer to take it off his personal truck). More likely the ubiquitous 4" from, like everybody.
    Oh, and I have the "Got Wood" T-shirt thru the dude on the…which explains my current tumescence…

    1. Tim Odell Avatar
      Tim Odell

      Yeah, I was kind of guessing there. These things rode pretty low in stock form.
      Could be a spring-over, too.

      1. SeanKHotay Avatar

        Yep, you might be onto something there…and that's the cheaper way to do it, fitting with the price…

  10. P161911 Avatar

    I would really rather have my full size Jeep SUV with only 2 doors or at least old enough not to have wood grain.
    The Centurions seem to be a really regional thing. I think I have only ever seen 2 or 3 of the things one in Michigan and one in West Virginia. I think they did a version on the dually F-350 too.

  11. Maymar Avatar

    I had an F150, and loved it, and as such could be happy with the Centurion.
    But I have a fiery massive lust for Grand Wagoneers that can't be denied. There aren't many SUVs I'd take over it.

  12. Froggmann_ Avatar

    I gotta go with my loyalties with this one, Centurion. There is just something to say about a four door Bronco.

  13. Beatnikid Avatar

    Although the Bronco's got steel beams for bumpers and intimidation galore, the Woody Wagon wins. Why? way classier and it's got roof-racks!

    1. jjd241 Avatar

      Want a "Brand New" one…check these guys out! At first there prices sound high, but when you compare it to a new SUV (Soft Utility Vehicle) or the cost of doing it yourself….

  14. Deartháir Avatar

    Why don't I have a rebuilt carbutator?
    I pick the Bronco thing. I'd gut it, fill it with luxurious leather, throw some obnoxious chrome 22's on it with big knobby mud tires, and sell it for $100k up here in Alberta.
    Then I'd buy the Grand Wagoneer.

    1. Tomsk Avatar

      No shortage of flatbillers up there?

  15. From_a_Buick_6 Avatar

    The Bronco Centurion is awesome, but I find it impossible to turn down a Wagoneer under almost any circumstance.

  16. CptSevere Avatar

    I love the old Wagoneers, don't get me wrong, I'd take the pictured one in a heartbeat, but the Fordburban is so rare and weird that it intrigues me. Never seen one, and I think it looks just bitchin. Put some nice meats on it, maybe a couple of inches of lift, and I'd wheel the hell out of it. Leave the Bronco rear topper off most of the time (I can get away with that most of the year here in AZ). And, being an F250, I'll guarantee you that it will take way more offroad abuse than that Wagoneer. Yeah, it's bigger and not very maneuverable, but with a 460 it'll climb anything, especially with lockers on the differentials. Besides, if you're heading out into the bush with your cronies, dogs, beer, guns, steaks, and luxuries like camping equipment and water, you need the load capacity. I sure hope it has an auxiliary gas tank, that 460 has gotta be thirsty. Sure would suck to run out of gas way out in the middle of the desert. Almost as bad as running out of beer.

    1. coupeZ600 Avatar

      Good thing about the 460 is there are lots of parts around, either on junkers in the neighbors yard or on the shelf at Napa or Autozone. Heck, probably some in your yard, even though you don't even own a Ford, or plan to.
      About the beer, we used to always buy an extra 12-pack but not put it on ice, just throw it in the back with all the other mess and call it the "Break-Down 12-Pack". Nobody (except the most drunk that weren't allowed by the ice-chest) would get into it if there were any cold ones left, because by mid-afternoon those things would be about 125 degrees. Once the inevitable break-down occurred, the last of the cold ones would be consumed while trying to fix the problem, and when there was one left, it would be given to the guy who volunteered to walk back and get help. At this moment it became a kind of "Mutual Dumb-Ass Appreciation Society", them looking at you and thinking, "He's got eight miles to go before he even see's a car that won't pick him up!", and you watching them break into that twelve-pack and have to put their gloves on because the fuckers are so hot, and know that since they'll go all Donner Party in a couple of hours, maybe I'll just go home and come back in the morning.

  17. Feds Avatar

    Is everyone forgetting that the roof comes off of the Centurion? THE FREAKING ROOF COMES OFF! Full scale 4runner!
    That's the one I am going with. the Centurion. With no roof.

  18. Festiva_Movemnt Avatar

    Grand Wagoneers rock my world. And, there is a daily-driven Centurion in the town I live in that I come across on a fairly regular basis, so maybe they just don't seem that special to me. I also have a creeping suspicion that most of the Centurions out there are decked out inside with lots of wooden armrests, shag carpeting, 10" TV/VCR Combos, and other conversion-van-esque accoutrement. That rubs me the wrong way…

  19. stayingclassy Avatar

    I was just looking at a set of Mavic wheels for my bike I cou;dn't actually avoid while simultaneously reading this thread,
    it's no contest! for the price of a 3,5 lb set of bike wheels (Without tires, even!) I go Grand Waggy

  20. engineerd Avatar

    I voted for the Ford. Before you accuse me of being automatically biased for the Ford (I kind of am), take a cold shower and listen to my reasoning.
    Jeep Grand Wagoneers are cool. I saw one not too long ago in the parking lot at Meijer while making our weekly trek to The Most Evil Store On Earth with my wife. I pointed it out to her and said that should be her next car. She gave me one of her looks. However, having said that, I had to pick the Ford. The orangered might be too much. It's ginormous and probably wouldn't fit in my driveway without my neighbor — with whom I share said driveway — lodging a formal complaint with the city. It sucks down more fuel in one mile than all of Toyota's 2010 sales do in ten. It is so not the right car for most anyone. And that's why I want it. Sure, the Jeep has most of that going for it, too, but it's not as unique. In certain parts of the country you find Wagoneers everywhere. The Centurion will make people look twice. It commands respect. It let's people know that you are there, and you're not leaving until you damn well please. Then there's the matter of the removable roof. Remember all the love shown the 1st gen 4Runner with it's convertibleness? Now, take the awesomeness of the 4Runner and add 33.333333% more awesome, and subtract the hate from the "Buy American" crowd.
    Plus, Todd Palin had one and he's manly.

  21. JeepyJayhawk Avatar

    Wagoneer FOR THE WIN. I almost had the wife one, I think she still wants one, but with the TJ she wanted to have at least one car in the family that got decent mileage (hence the Vibe.)
    Someday sweetie.
    Plus with a few parts, very little work, and a beer or two you can easily have this.
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    Jeep never got around to removing any of the mounting hardware from the original Gladiator front end, just covered it with the plastic grill.

    1. JeepyJayhawk Avatar

      Just now noticing that that's a poopy photoshop…. Must find better image…

      1. engineerd Avatar

        Hehehe…you said poopy.

  22. muthalovin Avatar

    Grand Wagoneer. Wood. Freaking. Grain.

  23. Goingincirclez Avatar

    Well I slept on it, and… the Centurion is basically an Excursion prototype. Granted it's much cooler than what the Excursion turned out to be, but… yeah. Sad but true.
    The Wagoneer is nothing more or less than the refined excellence they always were.
    Wagoneer. It has to be.

  24. RacinG73 Avatar

    Why not both? I'd take the Centurion because I've wanted a tow vehicle capable of pulling my 28' race trailer AND my family + crew chief. But I'd love me an old Wagoneer.

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  26. Clydesdale4x4 Avatar

    You can;'t keep this a 4×4 shoot out with a 2wd Centurion, just saying. Having owned a Centurion (4×4 version) I could never settle for a lowly Heep.

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  28. legion Avatar

    Id take the wagoneer anyday! Love the Old Jeeps, My dad bought a cj7 when i was a kid, Used it to drive in the woods, the body was all rusted out, but the ol 258 would never die! too bad the tranny did.
    Now got a 79 Cherokee and an 80 CJ-5 with a 3-speed.

  29. shaukekiempi Avatar

    Recently had an almost exact conundrum. Do I sell my 94 Bronco XLT or my 88 Woody. Sadly, the Woody was the one that garnered the most buyer interest. I do miss my Woody. 🙁