Last Call: Auxiliary League Edition

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Take a look at this setup and tell me if you were able to immediately determine what exactly is going on here.  It took me a minute to figure out that the Chrysler Hemi is being fed by a supercharger that is driven by a second, auxiliary motor sitting just next door to the V8. That’s some damn fine Rube Goldberg work right there if you ask me.
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36 responses to “Last Call: Auxiliary League Edition”

  1. ptschett Avatar
    ptschett

    Makes a bit more sense than Roadkills implementation…
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VPMBR-imqUk

    1. outback_ute Avatar
      outback_ute

      I wonder if they ran a time for the car without the trailer? That’s a lot of weight for a few psi.

      1. 0A5599 Avatar
        0A5599

        I think they did some before and after testing on the leaf blower episode. Not a perfect baseline because track and weather conditions might have changed between episodes, but a starting point for a comparison.

  2. srx6 Avatar
    srx6

    looks like a flat four 2 stroke used in navy assault boats way back in time….according to a story I read by Robb White….likes to run at full throttle…very cool setup..

    1. discontinuuity Avatar
      discontinuuity
      1. srx6 Avatar
        srx6

        Think you are right…Rob White may have owned and written about an Evinrude Storm Boat motor…1940’s..That looks like a really nice machine in the pic, thanks for link..

  3. Batshitbox Avatar
    Batshitbox

    Sorta brilliant, actually. It adds a bit of weight, but robs no power from the main engine. Also, it can run at a constant speed to provide maximum benefit at all RPMs. It looks like a water cooled pony motor, and a 2-stroke, given the carb is sitting on the crank case.
    It reminds me of the Caterpillars that had a little gasoline engine that was used as a starter motor for the big diesel.

    1. Guest Avatar
      Guest

      A few John Deere tractors had a pony (starter) motor as well, in their larger diesels.

      I know the John Deere 820/830 commonly came with one, and I believe the 720/730 and R could come with them as well.

    2. outback_ute Avatar
      outback_ute

      Great point about max boost at low rpm, that would be a decent gain!
      From memory the Bloodhound land speed record car has a V12 race engine as it’s starter.
      Another analogy was the container ship I went on had a row of V24 Caterpillar or Detroits to generate power for refrigeration containers, separate from the main 38,000 hp engine.

      1. AlexG55 Avatar
        AlexG55

        I think the internal-combustion engine in Bloodhound is the oxidiser pump for the rocket motor- the jet engine is started by compressed air as it would be in a Eurofighter.
        Diesel tractors have had some “interesting” methods of starting them, ranging from firing a shotgun blank into the cylinder to heating the cylinder with a gas torch before hand-cranking…

        1. outback_ute Avatar
          outback_ute

          That rings a bell actually and makes a lot more sense.
          I’ve actually seen a Lanz Bulldog tractor (a large single-cylinder diesel) started by heating with a torch – the modern, easier way than using the tray full of hot coals that was the original system.

  4. Manxman Avatar

    My first thought was “I want to put that engine in a motorcycle frame”!

      1. Monkey10is Avatar
        Monkey10is

        (And thank you for the link to odd-bike.com; a fascinating wormhole that has just consumed my Sunday morning.)

  5. Victor Avatar
    Victor

    1934 White Truck with body by H. McFarlane & Company of Chicago, wagonmakers that dated back at least to 1878. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/23e9f427ab0283b646aa4f1cb2cd1670c8b26069d795f8416ab27018f8a558ac.jpg

    1. Wayne Moyer Avatar
      Wayne Moyer

      You know you’re rich when Coke brings you a truck to get your sodas.

    2. Sjalabais Avatar
      Sjalabais

      That is one stylish rig. Compare that to the abstract “one line here, one line there”-design of new cars in Friday’s news. I felt we were in a new, golden age of intuitive, elegantly proportioned design (think Mazda or Volvo), but maybe it’s over already.

      1. Victor Avatar
        Victor

        The term “Art Deco” comes to mind.

  6. Jofes2 Avatar
    Jofes2

    I was a little shocked the other day when I realized that the Volkswagen Transporter isn’t sold in the US at all.
    Why not? Here in Europe it is the commercial vehicle. You can’t go outside for more than a minute without seeing one. Every craftsman, gardener, cleaning firm, delivery service, construction company, plumber, and so on uses them. Be it a panel van or a pickup. Not to mention how popular they are as campers and people carriers. Not many of the competitors are available in America either, like the Fiat Scudo or the Opel Vivaro. What do you have instead?
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ee/2014_Volkswagen_Transporter_%28T5_MY15%29_TDI340_SWB_van_%2817840166200%29.jpg/800px-2014_Volkswagen_Transporter_%28T5_MY15%29_TDI340_SWB_van_%2817840166200%29.jpg

    1. JayP Avatar
      JayP

      Since the Ranger was cancelled, trades are using panels trucks.
      Some are RAMS rebadged from FIATs. Ford Transit line is here with the full size and Connect.
      Nissan makes a full sized panel plus a smaller box they share with Chevy.
      MB had sold their Sprinter as a Freightliner but has started selling under the MB badge again.
      VW just never made inroads and at one point the VW Rutan was a rebadged Dodge.

    2. Guest Avatar
      Guest

      In Canada, it’s also pretty similar to what JayP said. Most people use full-size vans, like the Ford Transit, Mercedes-Benz Sprinter, or the styling monstrosity that is the Ram ProMaster. Some use the smaller versions (Transit Connect, ProMaster City), but they aren’t super common.

      I think this might have more to do with the American “Chicken Tax” on imported commercial vehicles than anything else. Some of the commercial vans are/were imported with full interiors that are shredded upon arrival, just so they can be zoned as “passenger” when imported, avoiding a hefty tax.

      On a side note, the T4 Volkswagen Transporter was sold in the U.S. and Canada for a few years in the late 90s, early 2000s (Canada got a longer sales run). Most were campers. They’ve become quite the enthusiast vehicle now, as most were sold with VR6, and resale rates are still relatively high. I have an uncle and a cousin who each have one, and they wouldn’t trade them for the world.

    3. 0A5599 Avatar
      0A5599

      It varies a little by trade, but most of the ones mentioned will use full-sized pickups. Plumbers use them with pipe racks up top, or will sometimes use cutaway vans. Carpet installers usually use vans, with the end of the roll poking out the rear doors. Cleaning companies often use passenger cars.

    4. outback_ute Avatar
      outback_ute

      What would the pickup vs van sales ratio be in the US? 10 or 20:1? That is normal F150/Silverado pickups not cab-chassis versions of vans. In Australia it was approximately 8:1 last year.
      I imagine the ratio of vans to non-van pickups in Europe (ie Fiat Strads, Mitsubishi L200, etc) would be even lower.

    5. nanoop Avatar

      Those, as Multivan 2.5L TDI with foldable bunk under the roof, are among the few cars you can buy used in Norway for a lot less than doing the import-from-Germany thing. Germans love them.
      Here (N), the handyman with a van’s perpetuum mobile would be the Hyundai H-1, or the HiAce with 4WD:
      https://images.finncdn.no/dynamic/640w/2017/1/vertical-3/13/0/889/823/60_1756532051.jpg
      https://images.finncdn.no/dynamic/640w/2017/1/vertical-3/15/2/891/019/12_1580701947.jpg

      1. Sjalabais Avatar
        Sjalabais

        After Toyota announced the death of the Hiace, the outcry in tiny Norway was enough to produce a delayed extra run of 1000 vehicles destined exclusively for Norway. Not a joke.

        1. outback_ute Avatar
          outback_ute

          They still make the Hiace, just not the type shown above (semi-bonneted). While it has a 4-star safety rating I’m not sure I’d still trust it… https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/350485579e7b62d797c98eee4d83c3468f033ca0e19f0104f99886d7e4e8eb36.jpg

          1. Sjalabais Avatar
            Sjalabais

            You know what, if they had sold it in Norway, it would be a hit. Trouble is, it probably won’t meet EU safety and pollution requirements, which killed the other version. They sell the PSA based ProAce, which everyone knows is a hoax, haha.
            https://i.ytimg.com/vi/rkqh4Gcemvc/maxresdefault.jpg

          2. outback_ute Avatar
            outback_ute

            AU safety tests basically have only detail differences from the EU ones, and I’m sure the diesel engine is similar to that sold in the Landcruiser 150 series that it could be made to meet the emissions regulations (if it doesn’t already).
            But I bet people wouldn’t buy it just because of the cabover thing, plus of course not being a European brand.
            I get that though, a work colleague had a low speed crash in a forward control van and broke his foot.

  7. Sjalabais Avatar
    Sjalabais

    Obligatory sharing of weekend trip driving pics. It’s been too long since I last got the chance to climb a mountain in solitude; and as I grow older and less physically able (sigh), the drive to and from assumes an almost equal importance. Friends want to drive the least possible time, hike the most. For the time being, I like both parts just as much.
    https://s23.postimg.org/kpvs8m7q3/20170115_110431.jpg
    https://s23.postimg.org/tyxyiqgm3/20170115_112630.jpg
    https://s23.postimg.org/x8cdp74pn/P1110710.jpg
    https://s23.postimg.org/6yrb6eisb/P1110683.jpg
    https://s23.postimg.org/gym7mau1n/P1110717.jpg

    1. bv911 Avatar
      bv911

      Holy Cow! That’s amaaaaaaaaaaaaaaazzzziiiiinnnnnggggggg!!!!!!!11!!
      Nice pics.

  8. Batshitbox Avatar
    Batshitbox

    Weekend Update:
    The Laverda Rides Again! Look, it’s at the Point Arena Lighthouse!
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/fe91672a63f06c198b6f6a6c33b8c21f727d7471fbca8f457b135e4430737ec7.jpg
    After 3 months in the shop, the fork seals are done, the rebuilt carbs are tweaked, and the unobtanium rear master cylinder has been replaced with junkyard parts. The carbs had a severe misadjustment from the rebuilder that required removing all three and partially disassembling the center one. The rear MC? Well, after ordering a replacement from Canada, only to find it was completely wrong, and trying a similar master that turned out to be too short to move enough fluid, our resourceful mechanic went out to the garden of scrap motorcycles and eyeballed one on a Suzuki VX 800 that worked a charm. (VX800s aren’t any more common than Laverdas, but I bet the MC is the one from the VS 800 Intruder.)

    1. Batshitbox Avatar
      Batshitbox

      Weekend Update Addendum:
      Steve The Increasingly Remarkable White Pickup hits a milestone.
      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b4db5100eb844bc9226e637fd4049b6713b475164fb379b4065d615155bed024.jpg
      As I worked my way through some very storm damaged Northern California terrain it became apparent that Steve was going to turn over 100,000 miles just about exactly when I pulled in to Point Arena to pick up the Laverda. In truth, it was at 99,997.6 when I first laid eyes on the shop, so I went around the block twice before parking and getting the obligatory pic.
      If you can find another 26 year old fleet service vehicle with only 100K on the clock you’re a lucky devil.

      1. Peter Tanshanomi Avatar

        …rotating disk instruments FTW!

  9. nanoop Avatar

    What I’ve found by coincidence: https://longreads.com/2014/11/11/the-rise-and-fall-of-john-delorean/
    From a nearly-first-hand perspective.

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