HoonUp: Honda & Acura Edition

Welcome to a brand new series at Hooniverse called HoonUp. The question posed is, how would you spice up an automaker’s lineup? Pretend you are the parts-bin manager at automaker X, what would you smush together to make it hoon? I’ll take a crack at answering the question, then it’s your turn. Toss your thoughts into the chat! First up, Honda/Acura!

If you’re going to start with something “fun” at Honda/Acura that isn’t an NSX, it’s got to be the Civic Type R (CTR). I’ve driven it on a few occasions, and it’s fantastic. The styling may not be for everyone, but it’s a riot to drive. With 306 horsepower from the turbocharged and intercooled 2.0L engine and a standard 6-speed transmission, it’s not slow. Add a unique dual-axis MacPherson front suspension that all but eliminates torque steer and you’ve got an incredibly fun car. So, let’s try and apply some Type R magic to two potentially fun sedans, the Honda Accord and Acura ILX.

 

I’ll start with the Accord, because it’s the technically the toughest to Type R’ize of the two. Plus, there is a precedent for the Accord Type R. The Accord Type-R (ATR) was in production between 1998 to 2002 with the CH1 Accord chassis used in UK markets, whereas the JDM version used the CL1 chassis. Both used a 217 horsepower 2.2-litre four-cylinder DOHC H22A7 but the real magic of the R has always been in the suspension & tuning vs. big power. So what would a 2022 Honda Accord Type R look like?

Engine & Transmission

Our buddies at Motortrend did a rendering back in 2019, the most interesting bit for me was the interview they did with Doug Macmillan, one of the founders of Honda tuner Hondata. He talked through the logistics of building the 2.0 engine found in the Accord Sport into a more powerful unit. While the optional 252-hp turbocharged 2.0-liter four-cylinder found in the current Accord is similar to the one in the CTR, it’s not identical. So an engine swap may be more complicated than it’s worth, whereas bolting the Type R’s turbocharger plus a tune will net an extra 60 horsepower from the Accord’s 2.0T engine. That gets you a pretty easy 312 horsepower, but he goes on to say that the engine setup is good for a fairly reliable 400 horsepower.

Splitting the difference, and letting Honda be Honda, expect 350-360 horsepower in this iteration. The Accord already has an optional six-speed, which I would offer as the standard transmission, just like it used to be. If the CTR’s close ration 6-speed with rev-matching works here, that’s great too.

Suspension & Chassis

So we’ve got more power, but as I said that’s not the real Type R secret sauce. It’s the suspension tuning that delivers quick Ring times. There are currently no Accord AWD models in the lineup, and that might not matter. The dual-axis MacPherson front suspension is ridiculously good on a front-driver. So for the sake of cost and weight, bolting on the remaining CTR’s suspension bits on our ATR is the way to go in my book. The helical limited-slip diff and adaptive dampers should definitely come over.

Weight is the enemy of fun, in many elements of life. The Accord Sport is surprisingly light on its feet, at 3,223 – 3,380 pounds depending on 1.5L vs. 2.0L engine. Making use of some of the CTR’s weight savings techniques, like the aluminum hood, will help make the ATR even more fun to drive. Add some sort of larger wheel (CTR uses 20″) with Michelin Sport Cup 2 tires and the CTR’s amazing brakes to finish the job.

Interior, Exterior, Etc.

Inside you would hope to find the usual Type R seats, which are some of the best in the business. There should also be a cool “R” button (which actually does something vs. most “sport” buttons) and the Honda logR datalogger system. Add some Alcantara accents and you’ve got a pretty special Honda.

Outside, ideally they will tone down the crazy a bit. I added the CTR’s rear wing, side skirts, and front bumper vents in these Photoshops. I would expect some Type-R badging of course, but the ATR could be done a bit more “tastefully” than the CTR.

Pricing

The CTR rings in at $37,895, which is $15,695 more than a standard Civic hatchback. Using the parts-bin theory that you would be adding that to the price of a base Accord ($24,970), and you’re at $40,665 to start. The most expensive Accord is currently the 2.0 Touring at $36,900 so a low $40,000 price tag for the ATR would be pretty reasonable, both in the lineup and the automotive world.

Well damn, I was going to have a similar section for the ILX “Type R”, but I’m at almost 900 words already and basically for this one I would say “ditto”. The ILX is based on the Civic, so this would be even easier! Obviously Acura may use a different nomenclature and call it something other than Type R.

It would be interesting to see some sort of hybrid AWD powertrain in this iteration. There are rumors that the 11th generation CTR will use electric all-wheel drive system that resembles the one Acura already uses in several of its products, including the NSX. Specifically, if you take the “twin-motor units” used in the Acura MDX, you’ll net an additional 70 horsepower or so. So that setup, plus the CTR’s stock engine (306 horsepower), and you’re at a very healthy 378 total system horsepower. Not too difficult to get to the 400 range pretty reliably if the hopped up ILX is AWD.

The ILX starts at $26,100, so using the same methodology as the ATR, you’re at $41,795 for this version. Obviously that would likely increase with a hybrid AWD version, so expect closer to $45,000 starting MSRP.

Honda, Do it!

Those of us who grew up driving fun Hondas are now grown, so I know I personally get pretty excited about fun to drive sedans. Other than a few cars like the Kia Stinger GT and Audi S4, there aren’t many quick sedans in the sub $50,000 range. Go beyond that and you’ll find the Mercedes CLA45 coming in a bit more money, but most of these options have less power, and would likely be heavier than the theoretical Type R’ized Accord and ILX.

So that’s my idea, hit me up in the comments to say how you would HoonUp the Honda/Acura lineup. NSX drivetrain in a CRV?

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9 responses to “HoonUp: Honda & Acura Edition”

  1. Maymar Avatar

    Keep it simple, drop the 1.5T in a Fit and break out the Si badges (and, you know, other sundry improvements). The Civic Sport probably renders it redundant, but I can dream.

    Otherwise, CTR bits in a CR-V for another 5-door take on the idea.

    1. kernel_panik Avatar

      Fit Si? Yes, please. My wife drives a Fit and I always wonder if a different rear suspension could reduce its significant body roll.
      Alternately, slam an HR-V. It’s already indistinguishable from a small hatchback anyway.

      1. Jeff Glucker Avatar

        A Fit Si would be dope as hell

  2. Sjalabais Avatar

    I may be the odd one out again, but the Honda I dream of is the Jade, and afaik none of us has access to it? It’s a super versatile small van, pretty much a follow-up to the Stream I had earlier, and it is just undescribably sleek, too. This hits all my buttons, really, as it just looks modern and pleasant, and has all the pragmatic cues I am looking for. There is even an RS version (148hp):
    https://i.ibb.co/3z9qVSD/jade-rs.webp

    So I don’t need any of the bells and whistles, but drop that 306hp engine and the six speed into this one and this is pretty much daily driver heaven for me. A sleeper that can do everything I want of a car, including actually sleeping in it, carrying six people or 500kg of firewood. I can still look like the dork I am in my Centennial during the weekends, but, yeah, this one would get me excited.

    1. Maymar Avatar

      I know the Jade is supposedly an MPV, but it looks like it’s basically a Honda Civic wagon, which is pretty perfect.

      1. Zentropy Avatar

        “MPV” is an artificial marketing term, not a practical one. The Jade IS literally a Honda Civic wagon.

        1. Sjalabais Avatar

          The thing is, I could go and by a Civic wagon (or “Tourer”) proper. It is just not quite as good. While the Jade has the magic space utilization of a Fit/Jazz, the Tourer just has a cavernous boot. And it was always troubled with poor visibility:
          https://www.vg.no/forbruker/bil-baat-og-motor/i/K0Me4/test-av-honda-civic-tourer-stor-og-morsom

  3. crank_case Avatar

    Honda S660, give it a 1 litre turbo “big block” and sell it in the west please. I don’t give a damn about no shatchback (any sedan that’s derived from a hatch for markets that are a bit snooty about hatchbacks)

  4. outback_ute Avatar

    If they did a CTR for adults with the Acura badge that might work.

    Or take inspiration from the S660, NSX and S2000, and go midengined with the CTR powertrain! It would need to be larger than the S660, so instantly not viable, but hey ho…

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