Hooniverse Asks: What Would be The Ultimate Road Course Cross-Class Match Up?

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One of the most interesting aspects of class racing is that all the cars need to meet the same rules and hence the match up typically comes down to a clash between drivers and between the crews that set up the cars. Wouldn’t it be interesting however, if cars from different classes could go tire to tire to see who’s best? That would really be a test of driving prowess.
I’m not an advocate of baseball’s inter-league play as honestly I’d prefer to wait until the World Series to see each side match up. I do like the idea however, of throwing Indy Cars up against Formula One, or Touring Cars against NASCAR. What do you think, would you like to see mix-and-match racing too?
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  1. kogashiwa Avatar
    kogashiwa

    This one is pretty obvious for me …

  2. Chris Dorgan Avatar
    Chris Dorgan

    They should bring back Group B rally with the only rule being under a certain HP of say 750 😛 anything under that, go nuts! Same with other types of racing if it’s circuit racing just say closed or open cockpit set a max HP and then let the designers n engineers go nuts!

    1. The Rusty Hub Avatar
      The Rusty Hub

      Ironically, the speed of modern rally cars with 300 HP is about the same as the old Group B cars because of all the advances in non-horsepower areas (gearbox, suspension, aero, etc.).
      Global/World RallyCross cars make ~600 HP, though, with the same advances because they don’t have to worry about how much faster they’d be hitting trees if/when they make mistakes.
      That said, the old Group B cars had a visceral sense of danger that won’t ever be the same. Of course, that danger was very real and the exact reason Group B ended.

  3. pj134 Avatar
    pj134

    V8 Supercars vs NASCAR would be entertaining just because of the similar mindsets. Do four roadtracks and four circle tracks or something.

    1. The Rusty Hub Avatar
      The Rusty Hub

      That would be an entertaining matchup.

    2. engineerd Avatar
      engineerd

      This is what I came here to say.

  4. The Rusty Hub Avatar
        1. Andrew_theS2kBore Avatar
          Andrew_theS2kBore

          Wouldn’t be remotely close. 2500lb, 500hp, 2200lb downforce versus 2000lb, 460hp, 3000+ lb downforce and a superior l/d ratio. Don’t get me wrong, DTM cars are amazing machines in their own right, and every bit as exotic in their construction as an LMP2, but the rules just don’t align.

    1. urcasujane Avatar
      urcasujane

      Super Formula was more than 4secs faster than old 2011 Indycar at Motegi Road Course. I know the 2011 car was made for IRL Ovals, but I believe SF cars are still faster than Indycars and GP2

  5. The Rusty Hub Avatar
    The Rusty Hub

    At the risk of inundating this discussion, I guess I didn’t post the “ultimate” crossover. That would have to be Formula 1 and WEC LMP1, right? I mean, F1 is clearly faster, but you could have some kind of middle ground like a 500-kilometer race or bigger fuel-tank allowances for the LMP1 or something.

  6. roguetoaster Avatar
    roguetoaster

    That’s easy, Chump and USCC! Skilled drivers in both series, and I’d really like to see the Delta Wing weave through Chump traffic! Of course, the USCC cars will need to comply with Chump value assessments, and the subsequent penalty laps.

  7. Tanshanomi Avatar

    Drift cars + Supermoto bikes. I’d call it Armageddon Sideways.
    http://images.motorcycle-usa.com/PhotoGallerys/96784Xaus.jpg

  8. engineerd Avatar
    engineerd

    Wait…isn’t this Le Mans?

  9. Ross Ballot Avatar
    Ross Ballot

    Stadium Super Trucks and Rallycross out on the same track would be a hell of a thing to watch.

    1. smokyburnout Avatar
      smokyburnout

      Not at the same time, but there was an agreement early on to get GRC onto off road short courses
      http://www.rally-america.com/news/entry/ra_895

  10. NapoleonSolo Avatar
    NapoleonSolo

    I’d like to see an invitational at Road America in Elkhart Lake, Wisconsin, USA where driver Mark Donohue takes on any and all challengers in his Porsche 917/30 in one-on-one ten-lap sprints.
    T’would be interesting.
    “The 917/30 was the most powerful sports car racer ever built and raced. The 5.374 litre 12 cylinder (90.0 x 70.4 mm) twin-turbocharged engine could produce 1,580 bhp (1,180 kW) in qualifying tune, with twin turbochargers run up to full boost, 39 psi (2.7 bar), though it usually raced with around 1,100 bhp (820 kW) at 7,800 rpm to preserve the engine. Weighing 1,800 lb (820 kg), giving it a power to weight of 1967.36 bhp/tonne in qualifying tune and 1369.68 bhp/tonne in race tune. The 917/30 dominated the Can-Am series during the 1973 season. The 917/30 could go from 0-62 mph (100 km/h) in 1.9 seconds, 0-100 mph (160 km/h) in 3.9 seconds, 0-200 mph (320 km/h) in 10.9 seconds, and on to a top speed of more than 260 mph (420 km/h).”

  11. NapoleonSolo Avatar
    NapoleonSolo

    I’d like to see an invitational at Road America in Elkhart Lake, Wisconsin, USA where driver Mark Donohue takes on any and all challengers in his Porsche 917/30 in one-on-one ten-lap sprints.
    T’would be interesting.
    “The 917/30 was the most powerful sports car racer ever built and raced. The 5.374 litre 12 cylinder (90.0 x 70.4 mm) twin-turbocharged engine could produce 1,580 bhp (1,180 kW) in qualifying tune, with twin turbochargers run up to full boost, 39 psi (2.7 bar), though it usually raced with around 1,100 bhp (820 kW) at 7,800 rpm to preserve the engine. Weighing 1,800 lb (820 kg), giving it a power to weight of 1967.36 bhp/tonne in qualifying tune and 1369.68 bhp/tonne in race tune. The 917/30 dominated the Can-Am series during the 1973 season. The 917/30 could go from 0-62 mph (100 km/h) in 1.9 seconds, 0-100 mph (160 km/h) in 3.9 seconds, 0-200 mph (320 km/h) in 10.9 seconds, and on to a top speed of more than 260 mph (420 km/h).”

    1. caltemus Avatar
      caltemus

      I just saw this car at the IMS museum. I never expected to see it in person. The Unfair Advantage is a great read for anybody into racing.

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