Finnish Line: On the 2015 Mazda MX-5 ND's Pricing in Finland

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The Finnish prices for the new generation Mazda MX-5 were recently announced. I’ve been eagerly waiting for the final prices, even if I’m the kind of guy who only brings in dirt at a new car dealership. But since there’s a Miata in my life, I’m keen to observe where the model line is going. And technically I’m slap bang in the middle of the focus group, as I’m an enthusiast who rarely needs to transport more than one passenger. And when the need arises, I have alternative transport waiting in the wings. It’s not preposterous to consider the ND as the ideal new car on the market.
As a prelude of sorts, the German-market cars start at 23 000 euros at their most basic, 1500 cc “Prime Line” version. You get electric windows, manual A/C and so on; stuff to keep practically anybody happy, but nothing outrageous. If you want more kit, there’s the Center Line specification for a grand more, and the two-litre engine is available on the Exclusive Line and Sports Line, at 27 000 and 29 000 euros, respectively. This makes a fair bit of sense, as if you want a base car and want to focus on the car’s abilities themselves, you can do that.
Not so in Finland.

The cheapest 1.5-litre car is priced at 35 000 eur after taxes (27 000 as tax-free), and it features the following:
• Keyless Go with start-stop
• Automatic climate control
• Hill Hold Assist
• Cruise control
• 7″ TFT
• Lane Departure Warning System (… on an MX-5…)
• Leather seats
This baffles me. If there was an honest base car without any of this, the entry-level price could easily be pressed under 30 000 euros. It almost feels like the equipment is fitted to lure gadget-hungry people into showrooms, into the cars, from the comfort of their CUV:s and small premium hatchbacks, to consider the small, nimble, driver-focused MX-5 instead.
But why? If you’re a person who buys a 35 000 euro BMW 1-series, for example, you most likely need the rear seats and solid roof that the Mazda will not offer, and the engine variant will be the 120i with 175 horsepower. The pricier MX-5 versions cost 38 500 eur and 43 300 eur, so the jump to a two-litre car isn’t that steep, but still – why price the 1500cc car this high? A BRZ is 35 000 eur, and there’s quite a bit more power in one of those.
I’ve viewed the ND MX-5 as a 2015 car that’s still somehow 1989 in spirit. It features the kind of body structure engineering and safety features that are necessary for a modern car, with the engine as efficient, frugal and clean as is regulated, but still – it’s only as new as it has to be, if a generic new car is the kind of personal bubble that’s as detached from the road as the infotainment will take you. Why would a small, direct roadster need a LDWS setup, cruise control and automatic climate control as standard equipment?
Truth be told, I’d like to see these cars as just a launch edition of sorts. With the ND MX-5 comfortably on the market a little while from now, there could be a stripper model introduced later on, that’s more directly aimed at someone who just wants the car and nothing on it. Here’s hoping.

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  1. Maymar Avatar
    Maymar

    Could be worse – the Canadian spec MX-5 starts within spitting distance of the CX-9 at $32k Cdn (before freight), quite a bit higher than the US market price, even in relation to other Mazdas. And for that, we only get a fairly basic car (pretty much the only frill it’s got that my Mazda2 doesn’t is keyless start), which is what I want, but not at that price. The FR-S is slightly more palpable at $27k.
    Drove an ND on the weekend though, and it’s a shame, because it’s an amazing little car.

    1. Dean Bigglesworth Avatar
      Dean Bigglesworth

      The CX-5, which is the largest CUV they sell here, starts at 29.900€ for a 2.0 FWD manual. Top of the line automatic AWD diesel is nearly 52k€.

    2. Dr Stoat Avatar
      Dr Stoat

      Could be much worse. The base model in Singapore is SGD144k, or EUR95,000…

  2. Sjalabais Avatar
    Sjalabais

    Interesting, the MX5 starts at 33000€ in Norway (that’s with the krone devalued by >30% over the last year). Evrything appears to be included, with a DAB-radio, navigation, rain sensor etc.

  3. Jeff Glucker Avatar
    Jeff Glucker

    I’ve just spent the week driving the Clubsport. It’s pretty excellent… video coming soon.

    1. stigshift Avatar
      stigshift

      I hope i’m in my’90 NA when I finally see one…

  4. Bryce Womeldurf Avatar

    It sounds like the Touring package here in the states. Just give me the limited slip differential, AC, and power windows, some kind of hard drive-based audio system, and I don’t really need any of the rest of it. Nav would be good if it could be had on its own, since I have no sense of direction, but I could live without it. I have a phone.

  5. crank_case Avatar
    crank_case

    For once I don’t feel so bad about living in Ireland, exact same 1.5 model here is a shade under €28,000, but they refuse to offer us the 2.0 model, which doesn’t just mean less power, but also no LSD. You don’t “need” an LSD, purity, blah blah blah, but having had several MX5s, you do miss it when you lean on it, especially in the wet. I don’t give a monkeys about keyless bluetooth lane nagging wotsits, give me a slippy diff damnit.

    1. julkinen Avatar
      julkinen

      The BRZ and the GT86 aren’t priced the same, which is weird. They used to be, then Subaru dropped the BRZ’s price by 10k, sold quite a few, then raised the price again – but they’re not the same even today.
      Toyota GT86 2,0 A – 48524.46
      Toyota GT86 2,0 – 46946.73
      Toyota GT86 2,0 A (2014) – 48524.46
      Toyota GT86 2,0 (2014) – 47012.46
      Subaru BRZ – 37091.66
      Subaru BRZ A – 39961.48
      Subaru BRZ (2014) – 34937.02
      Subaru BRZ BRZ A (2014) – 35831.45
      I can’t explain this.

      1. Dean Bigglesworth Avatar
        Dean Bigglesworth

        It’s pretty irrelevant with the actual sales numbers… Though if you want a BRZ anywhere in Europe you might save a few grand buying it tax-free in Finland.
        As for sales numbers, Subaru sold 30 BRZ’s in all of 2014, while Toyota sold 12 GT86’s. 2015 January to June Subaru sold 18 BRZ’s and Toyota sold 1 GT86. One.

        1. crank_case Avatar
          crank_case

          Funnily enough, many folks in the UK order cars through dealers through Republic of Ireland dealers because after you take away the Vehicle Registration Tax, which only applies if you’re registering it here and the VAT, then add back the VAT in the UK, it works out cheaper on many models because the pre-tax price has to be set lower for stuff to be vaguely affordable. Something similar probably happens between Finland an its neighbours.

          1. Dean Bigglesworth Avatar
            Dean Bigglesworth

            Yeah, tax-free car prices in Finland are among the cheapest in Europe. Add the car tax + VAT and suddenly the cars are among the most expensive in Europe. It’s no wonder the average age of cars on the road is almost 12 years.

      2. crank_case Avatar
        crank_case

        That’s pretty nuts.

  6. Dean Bigglesworth Avatar
    Dean Bigglesworth

    I sort of understand not selling stripper models of mainstream cars like the 3 where people demand iTooth integration and a pornhub facebook on the dash, but why do it on low-volume models usually bought as second cars? The EP3 Civic Type R sold pretty well at just under 30k€, and it didn’t even have a radio standard. AC too was optional. I don’t have or need either of those. Well technically i have AC, but it hasn’t worked properly in years.
    I’ve spoken to Toyota about the GT86 / BRZ pricing, and the whole car is basically irrelevant to them. It doesn’t really matter if they sell 20 or 200 of them in a year so they haven’t bothered trying to match the price of the BRZ. Which doesn’t really sell either anyway. It’s cool to have such a car available, but there’s no incentive to try and sell them since they count for a tiny fraction of an already tiny market.
    As a side note, Finland is basically an island isolated from the rest of Europe. If I drove 1200km north then I would still be in Finland, if I took a ferry and went south I’d be halfway across Ukraine after having driven through Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, and Belarus. Everything is shipped here. We speak a weird language that’s incompatible with pretty much every other European language. We dislike all our neighbours. Finland is the angry and reclusive alcoholic of countries.

    1. cronn Avatar
      cronn

      I took a look at a new GT86 at the Toyota dealer. I thought it was nice until I saw the price tag. It was 3 series money. Seriously, I would’ve been able to buy a 320d with some change left over for options, or a stripper 325d with horsepower matching that of the GT86.
      Sorry, but you can’t price a Toyota like that and expect anyone to buy it.

      1. Dean Bigglesworth Avatar
        Dean Bigglesworth

        The price is nuts but I would still go for the GT86, were I in a position to pay 47k€ for either. Driving feel matters much more to me than rubberised dashboards and perceived status. Also the cheapest six-cylinder BMW is the 66k€ M235i.
        It’s local taxes and EU import tariffs that drive up the price to ludicrous territory. The tax-free price is… reasonable. It would be even more reasonable if it was made in the EU.