By Request: The Official Off-Topic Thread

With Lucas Racing Parts, you'll be sure to win! And by "sure", we mean "unlikely".

The Powers That Be at Hooniverse Galactic Central Command have now received this request quite a few times from commenters from, uh, other sites. While we have never been known for our tendency to cave to peer pressure, we also can’t just be stubborn for the sake of being stubborn. Even if it is our specialty.
Apparently we need a dedicated off-topic thread. Little-known fact, back shortly after the Big Bang that created the Hooniverse, we set up Last Call specifically for that purpose. We wanted to have a place for everyone to gather at the end of the day and shoot the sh– uh, breeze. Unfortunately, Rob has done such an awesome job with Shutdown every night that the content started generating on-topic discussion. What the hell is that?
So, here you go. Ask, and ye shall receive… eventually. This is the Official Off-Topic Thread. Bookmark it, remember it, join in and chat. If you’re going to get drunk and make out with each other, take it to another thread. Or… something. Actually, just… don’t make out with each other. That would get weird.
First topic of discussion: The Prince of Darkness — Anyone feel bad for Joe Lucas the man, whose legacy was tainted by the company he left behind?
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206 responses to “By Request: The Official Off-Topic Thread”

  1. CJinSD Avatar
    CJinSD

    They call it a racing magneto because you have to race home before your battery dies. If you make it there, you can enjoy a warm beer from your Lucas refrigerator.

  2. Deartháir Avatar
    Deartháir

    Honestly, some people are so goddamn needy. 😉

  3. JacobDFriedman Avatar
    JacobDFriedman

    Dammit…why did we put a lucas racing magneto as the post picture? This post is going to break down now…

    1. Deartháir Avatar
      Deartháir

      Don't be ridiculous, just because it's got Lucas in it doesn't mean it's automatically going to br%++-+—-!!%+++++++++++++++++++-
      NO CARRIER

      1. tonyola Avatar
        tonyola

        Obligatory post.
        <img src="http://www.capecodbritishcarclub.org/Lucas%20Smoke.JPG&quot; width=400>

        1. zsm Avatar
          zsm

          <img src="http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/comment/12/2011/02/6ec8fc8f79928d66b5acef3e889fe295/original.jpg"&gt;
          Funny I sent this gawker service part off to NYNY just yesterday. Seems they must not have gotten it yet from the looks of it. That or whoever should be brushing-up a resume over there right now dropped it.

    2. Deartháir Avatar
      Deartháir

      Goddammit, Hoonibbles, stop wrecking my jokes.

      1. JacobDFriedman Avatar
        JacobDFriedman

        HOONIBBLES!!!! <shakes fist>

        1. bzr Avatar

          We call him Hoonibbles, but his real name is Lucas…

          1. JeepyJayhawk Avatar

            It is now…

      2. tonyola Avatar
        tonyola

        IntenseDebate must be running on Lucas parts – it just ate another comment. Can't we switch to Japanese hardware?

        1. muthalovin Avatar

          Then we would have to deal with our comments being recalled.

          1. JeepyJayhawk Avatar

            ortypingtoofast

          2. Alff Avatar
            Alff

            Did you drive to OP this morning? I haven't ventured out yet.

          3. bzr Avatar

            Then I won't be able to stop typinggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg

      3. JeepyJayhawk Avatar

        I once said, "why change what is working…" I think we have passed into this damn thing is now more annoying than worth it.

  4. '76Mini Avatar
    '76Mini

    My mini is a weird place in Lucasdom, all the fuses I have replaced were the original lucas ones from 34 years ago (they didn't blow, but I didn't trust them). When the alternator packed it in, it was the original one from '76 as well. and the coil original and works just fine. But there is a gremlin or two, the lights for the switches went dead one day, the inline fuse wasn't blown though and sometimes I need to put the highbeams on for a few seconds to make the normal lights come on.
    From what I've discerned from other british car owners is that its either fine (like my last car) or its terrible.
    I was thinking about this today when the turn signals died, I'm hoping its the flasher unit, I do not want a short…….

    1. OA5599 Avatar
      OA5599

      Hey, at least your turn signals are all the way dead, so diagnosis should be fairly straightforward. Think of how much more difficult it would be to trace down the problem if they only lit intermittently: on-off-on-off-on-off…

      1. '76Mini Avatar
        '76Mini

        No there has been a development, it was the flasher, but the new one only works when it isn't being held in by its bracket….so its taped to the washer bottle…..

        1. Deartháir Avatar
          Deartháir

          Getting it as close as possible to a water source sounds like an excellent idea to me!

          1. zaddikim Avatar
            zaddikim

            My ex-wife had an '80 Toyota that had a horn that only worked when it rained. Fortunately, it was Southern B.C., so it worked most of the time.
            Water makes an excellent conductor, so why not, right?

  5. BlackIce_GTS Avatar
    BlackIce_GTS

    Best looking sedans of all time*: MkI Mazda 6, MkII Dodge/Chrysler Intrepid, Aston Martin Rapide, BMW E38 7-series.
    I own one of these. Probably the worst one, looking at it objectively.
    *That I can think of right now. This is mostly just a setup for discussion.

    1. Manic_King Avatar
      Manic_King

      Great list. I would add new 5 series sedan, esp. carbon black with M pack and right wheels.

    2. M44Power Avatar
      M44Power

      E34 5 series. The DS. 55-56 Imperial.

    3. Maymar Avatar
      Maymar

      I'm sort of more partial to the first-gen Intrepid. I might be biased because I owned one though. Although the Eagle Vision might be better looking than that. It's marginally reassuring when the transmission craps itself and you've got no resale.
      I'd also add the Series III XJ6.

      1. BlackIce_GTS Avatar
        BlackIce_GTS

        Yeah, I think the Vision was probably the best looking of the first generation LHs. I would have loved to see the second generation.
        It's a matter of taste on the Intrepids, some people think the second generation is too half-sucked-hard-candy looking, but I love it.

        1. Maymar Avatar
          Maymar

          I believe the 300M is more or less the 2nd generation, thanks to the discontinuation of Eagle. An Eagle version of that certainly would've been a good looking car.
          I do like the 2nd generation Intrepid also, although it's a little heavier and more bloated looking.

    4. tonyola Avatar
      tonyola

      1966-1967 Lincoln. 1980-1991 Mercedes W126 S-Class. 1964-1967 Rolls/Bentley Flying Spur.

    5. Rust-MyEnemy Avatar

      Current Maserati Quattroporte
      Ford Granada (Europe) Mk2

      1. tonyola Avatar
        tonyola

        This boxy thing? Not unattractive, but best looking ever?
        <img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/archive/9/9c/20071004171236!Ford_granada_ghia_x.jpg&quot; width=400>

        1. Rust-MyEnemy Avatar

          I honestly think it's one of the most balanced, elegant machines Ford ever came up with, certainly for a '1977 launch….
          I agree though, maybe a bit too much of a personal choice. I'm just doing my "Ford Tempo Fanatic" bit for Hooniverse

          1. FuzzyPlushroom Avatar
            FuzzyPlushroom

            Fine, then, Volvo 144/244 (flathood).
            <img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3457/4562959442_7cd1050b59_z.jpg"&gt;
            I'm only half-joking – I really do think they're well-proportioned. (Arguably more so than the MkII Intrepid, but that might just be me.)
            Similarly, the standard Opel Omega/Vauxhall Carlton look a bit dire, but with the rear wheelarches rounded off and a simple body kit…
            <img src="http://www.carrobonito.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/lotus-omega.jpg"&gt;
            …how you doin'…?

          2. BlackIce_GTS Avatar
            BlackIce_GTS

            Balanced, yes. Elegant is maybe your imagination. I do like it though.
            Secondarily; to North Americans, those are clearly F250 wheels:
            <img src="http://gandcrepaircenter.com/images/329893506_1128780785_0.jpg"&gt;

      2. scroggzilla Avatar
        scroggzilla

        The series 1 Quattroporte is also a handsome car.

    6. ptschett Avatar
      ptschett

      '92-'97 Cadillac Seville & STS.
      Original Jaguar S-type.

    7. Alff Avatar
      Alff

      Gardner Sport Sedan
      Duesenberg SJ Beverly
      Tatra 77a
      1949 Mercury
      1953 Buick Riviera
      Jaguar Mk II
      Alfa Giulia TI
      RR Silver Shadow
      Iso Fidia
      E34
      Pontiac G8

  6. Maymar Avatar
    Maymar

    So it's a snow day today, and I'm actually sort of disappointed I don't have to go in to school. Partially because it's before 7am and I'm awake (with nothing to do, that feels unjustified), and partially because I loaded the Hooncast on my mp3 player for the drive in.
    Then again, even if the roads aren't that bad, the drivers absolutely are.

    1. Mr_Biggles Avatar
      Mr_Biggles

      I came in. I wasn't going to, but there was a bunch of crap I had to get rolling that I couldn't do from home. Trouble is, now that I'm here I can't really leave at 10 with the bad weather excuse. And there weren't that many drivers out, bad or good.
      I do have to say that living in TO has left me mildly embarrassed lately to call myself Canadian. Much of the world would consider us a cold country, wouldn't they? So how come a bit of inclement weather always becomes a lead news item? Do they vet news anchors to make sure they can whine adequately about how cold it is? City TV started their news an hour early at 5am today because of this horrific storm we're getting which, while it must be worse in other areas, left a grand total of 5 cm in my driveway so far this morning.
      /lifts skirt and runs screaming from horrid storm/

      1. Alff Avatar
        Alff

        It ain't just Canada – we've all become pussies. One quick blizzard in KC and the city shuts down. Even at it's height, the storm was no worse than I've seen dozens of times as a skier, and that doesn't stop anyone from doing anything in the mountains.

        1. JeepyJayhawk Avatar

          Yeah, Hard to disagree with that. When they were shutting the world down on Monday, I felt they were over reacting a tad. I've been in worse, drove in worse, and will survive worse.
          But on the other hand it gives me an excuse to stay home.

        2. zsm Avatar
          zsm

          >poof!<

        3. zsm Avatar
          zsm

          Dang-nab-it Lucas! If you got an email with the post, could you copy paste it here. Thanks.

      2. Lotte Avatar
        Lotte

        Tell me about it. I stayed up last night to finish up what was supposed to be due today at 8:30am and…yeah. Dammit! There's barely any snow outside! Even the TTC is (supposedly) working (relatively) properly, but campus is closed for the entire day; they say "ongoing weather related challenges that continue to compromise safe travel across the Greater Toronto Area". Yeah, right. Drove out to get breakfast; it's not that bad at all, nothing like the big blizzard of the year I was hoping imagining it would be. They did a good job plowing and visibility was great.

      3. Maymar Avatar
        Maymar

        I'm up on Lake Simcoe, and I think we're up to 10-15cm, but I couldn't really be bothered to dig out the ruler. Of course, it all just annoys me instead of terrifies me, but annoyance doesn't make for the sort of news that panic does.

      4. Deartháir Avatar
        Deartháir

        The last sentence made me laugh my ass off, because that pretty much describes my opinion of most of the responses I've seen to the little skiff of snow that fell.
        Sure, for those people in one of the areas that got over 3 feet of snow, you can panic. Other than that, it hasn't been much.

        1. Mr_Biggles Avatar
          Mr_Biggles

          The sad thing is, as long as you're dressed for it, it really only takes the right attitude. Mine is the same as it was when I was 6: SNOW DAY! BRING IT ON!

  7. muthalovin Avatar

    In Central Texas this morning, the electric company is doing "rolling power outages" because of power demands. On my way to work, I pulled up to a red light at a busy intersection along with about a dozen other folks. The light went dark and everyone punched it. It was insanely frightening.

    1. JeepyJayhawk Avatar

      What power demands? Where the hell does someone in North America need an air conditioner today?

      1. JeepyJayhawk Avatar

        >poof< F you Lucas the Retarded Hamster

    2. JeepyJayhawk Avatar
      1. muthalovin Avatar

        Taadaa!
        To quote a friend: "it's like everyone could turn off one light and prevent the rolling blackouts, but in Texas they'd rather have rolling blackouts than less freedom"

    3. TurboBrick Avatar
      TurboBrick

      Rolling effing blackouts.. first I had to get the damn garage door open in the dark, and when I got to work we had enough power to brew a pot of coffee before the power went out there. Then EVERYONE called me because their computers weren't working and after I got that mess sorted out… the second wave of outages came! FML!
      FYI, this sh*t will continue until Friday, expect 3 hour waves in between the outages. I fully expect the folks in Dallas to reciprocate in the summer. When we're melting here in 103F heat, they can endure rolling blackouts in their cool and comfortable 98F climate.

      1. muthalovin Avatar

        That is no good, and I feel your pain.
        We have not had a loss of power at work, so I am single-handedly holding the electric torch for Texas, by having all my lights on, and blaring my music for my cube-mates.

    4. coupeZ600 Avatar
      coupeZ600

      Our fine City, in an effort to get even Greener, a couple of years ago decide to change all the stop-lights to LED Bulbs from the old incandescents,and this was brilliant until the first Winter. A lot of times the snow would rather just go sideways rather than fall to the ground where we could push it out of the way, and so the stop-lights in the wind-ward direction would get covered in snow, and the LED lights lacked the heat of the incandescents to melt the snow off.
      So this is how it would go down, time and time again , all over town:
      A car is traveling with the blowing snow, and comes up to a light that is completely obscured. He stops, observes an oncoming car stopped as well (Who sees the Red Light perfectly), and the first driver remembers the rule that if the the light is out, treat it as a four-way stop sign, so he looks at cross-traffic and assumes they can't see the light either and are going to stop, and he goes. Problem is the cross-traffic sees Green quite clearly, and there's a massive lock-up and honking and flipping of fingers (if not worse). Sometimes I would just park my snow-plow in the middle of the intersection just to slow everyone down until the sorry-fuckers in the Bucket-Trucks that had to clean the stop-lights by hand got there.

    5. zsm Avatar
      zsm

      THey did those when I lived in CA. So power goes out at work, everyone heads home, and the traffic lights don't work. Not too smart.

  8. JeepyJayhawk Avatar

    Best daily driver for weekend track assault: GO

    1. Alff Avatar
      Alff

      Ariel Atom.

    2. mad_science Avatar
      mad_science

      1/2 ton truck.
      (…to tow your gutted, unregistered, uninsured track toy)

      1. JeepyJayhawk Avatar

        SCCA does have an off road class… I wonder the likelihood of flipping the TJ…

        1. mad_science Avatar
          mad_science

          A lifted Wrangler is probably pretty dicey, but a Grand Cherokee probably has a shot: http://www.speedsportlife.com/2009/06/11/racer-bo

          1. JeepyJayhawk Avatar

            Well that gives fuel to the bad ideas… And I am stock height and plan on staying that low, stabil and cheaper tires.

    3. muthalovin Avatar

      Realistically, I would say M3, but being as broke-ass broke as I is, I would just take my F-150. It is neither a good daily driver, or a race car.

    4. Maymar Avatar
      Maymar

      Sort of depends on your climate, doesn't it? My first thought was a 600cc crotch rocket, but that's not really feasible today. So, the other easy answer is Miata.

    5. mad_science Avatar
      mad_science

      It depends on what kind of money you've got and how important being fast at the track is.
      Lotus or Caterham are obvious track-champs, but a tough choice unless your commute is particularly short and sunny.
      Big list of candidates:
      Any BMW 3-series of any generation, save something crappy like a 318.
      Miata
      MR2
      WRX
      Evo
      Mustang (given some chassis work)
      Porsche (gonna get spendy quick)
      Corvette

    6. RSDeuce Avatar
      RSDeuce

      e46 M3 (not because I drive one or anything.)
      And with the weather on the east coast, I can say for fact that with snow tires I would have no problem getting groceries in anything less than 7 inches. I did it just fine last year. My daily driver for all time (I hope/wish)

    7. Jackie Avatar
      Jackie

      I will simultaneously anger the car-gods and hurt my NC's feelings by suggesting the S2000.
      <img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/dc/HondaS2000-004.jpg/800px-HondaS2000-004.jpg&quot; width="500'/">
      (I'm sorry, my mistress. I promise to spin your tires a little tomorrow to make up for it.)

  9. Eggwich Avatar
    Eggwich

    I liek pinball.

    1. Alff Avatar
      Alff

      You lick what?

    2. mad_Science Avatar
      mad_Science

      I herd u liek mudkips

  10. P161911 Avatar
    P161911

    Having owned an old E30 BMW, I'm pretty sure Robert Bosch and Joe Lucas are very close cousins. The wipers would randomly turn on when the car was off and the keys were out. It also had a mystery battery draining issue that I finally solved by just putting a disconnect switch on the battery.

    1. ZomBee Racer Avatar

      You have angered the gods….

  11. tonyola Avatar
    tonyola

    One of the weirdest electrical gremlins I can recall was in a friend's 1975 Dodge Colt (the re-badged Mitsubishi). For some odd reason, when you pulled out the driver's inertia-reel seatbelt all the way out to the stop, the interior dome light would come on. We called it his "sudden deceleration warning light".

    1. Deartháir Avatar
      Deartháir

      Maybe because if you were big enough to need to pull it out all the way, the shadow you cast was enough for smaller people to think that night had fallen?

  12. ZomBee Racer Avatar

    Oh great…
    An "off topic" post that starts off with the ONE topic that consumes my entire anorak life.
    The one time I WANT to be on topic I end up OFF topic for being ON topic.
    Phukerz.

  13. Deartháir Avatar
    Deartháir

    Okay Hoons, I need some ideas from the lot of you.
    I'm trying to figure out how I can motivate some of the people who contacted me and said they wanted to write for AtomicToasters to the point where they actually… you know… write. I've got like 18 people who wanted to write for us, and only three people who really are.
    So what can I do to motivate them? Thus far the Molotov Cocktails (I even ordered them as doubles!) and horse-head-in-the-bed tricks haven't work, and I'm fresh out of ideas. Suggestions? How do I get some more content for you guys?
    And hell, that applies to Hooniverse too; we can't just rely on Jim for everything!

    1. tonyola Avatar
      tonyola

      Set up an input page that's easy to use, including adding in graphics. I'll bet you get some easy articles that way.

    2. Age_of_Aerostar Avatar
      Age_of_Aerostar

      3 of 18, that sounds about right and I don't think that's a bad start at all.
      Give it some time. Have Engineerd promote it. I didn't really know what it was all about (I'm not the most diligent web reader), until I read this and checked over there.
      That being said, I agree with Tonyola. An input page that's easy to use. I wouldn't have the first clue how to go about posting something. I'd probably make a nice Word document, and email it to you and ask if you thought it was right for the site.

      1. Deartháir Avatar
        Deartháir

        And for a non-writer, that's exactly the best thing to do. 😉 I'm just talking about the people who have signed up to write, and who I've created accounts for.
        I totally get that people are busy, and there's a healthy dose of sarcasm in my bitching there, I'm just trying to think of ways to motivate people to actually be interested in cranking out an article for Hoonie or Toasters.
        The WordPress Engine is pretty simple to crank out an article. It's just a simple word processor, with a button to insert an image, to add a Jump, whatever. And then a "Schedule" button or a "Publish" button. Click, click, hooray!
        What would make both sites more fun for commenters and writers alike? Because I think when the site is a lot of fun, and an interactive, engaging community, writers will want to write, and commenters will want to comment.

    3. Deartháir Avatar
      Deartháir

      We're absolutely going to have commenters on the call from time to time. Problem is that we've had something like 40 people contact us asking to be on the call, and who do we choose? So we're going to try and refine it a little to make it a bit more manageable.

    4. Deartháir Avatar
      Deartháir

      That reminds me. Someone page Skaycog and her clan; they're among the ones who have been asking for an off-topic forum of their own over here. Not sure if they still care, but they're among the people who have either emailed me or Facebroked me.

    5. Alff Avatar
      Alff

      Rename it "iTomic Toasters, the Unofficial Apple Fan Page". You'll have more writers than you can handle.

      1. zsm Avatar
        zsm

        I wanted to thumbs-up the comment itself, but I hate the consequences of doing that.

    6. muthalovin Avatar

      I am afraid of commitment.

      1. skitter Avatar
        skitter

        I generate content at a glacial pace.

    7. zsm Avatar
      zsm

      How about if I'm ever in your part of The Great White North, my family can crash at your place?

  14. Age_of_Aerostar Avatar
    Age_of_Aerostar

    Maybe it's been mentioned before, but I'm kinda slow and didn't find it.
    The star ratings on the Hooniverse articles…… are we to rate the article, or how we like what's pictured? This is very different, because sometimes I HATE what is there (the Caprice/Nomad thing) but LOVE that you brought it to me to hate.

    1. Deartháir Avatar
      Deartháir

      Yes.
      Seriously, there's no real formula for it. Right now, it's just for a bit of feedback for us. Once we've had it running for a few months, we'll be able to ramp it up to generate better recommendations, and add a sidebar showing off some of our best feature articles, or whatever. For the time being, it's just to allow a bit of feedback, like the thumbs-up, thumbs-down buttons on comments.

      1. zsm Avatar
        zsm

        When I'm at work I pretty much thumbs-up every comment I read, never noticed those stars before. Now I have more to click!

      2. zsm Avatar
        zsm

        I want more things to click, but I don't see any stars, thumbs, gears, hearts, shot glasses, or even ponies for the story!

    2. mdharrell Avatar

      I've been avoiding those ratings entirely. Awarding a yellow star for excellence is a bit too reminiscent of a system I encountered on some other car-related site somewhere.

      1. Deartháir Avatar
        Deartháir

        OH GOD. I never thought of that. Would it help if I switched to a thumbs-up like we use for comments?

        1. mdharrell Avatar

          Do that and you might just get a heart-click.

          1. Deartháir Avatar
            Deartháir

            That made me feel dirty, but I changed it anyhow. You should be able to see it now.

        2. Alff Avatar
          Alff

          Maybe you could also begin "disconsonanting" errant posts, or start wielding a "plaid hanbammer".

          1. Deartháir Avatar
            Deartháir

            My Banhammer is covered in Plaid Flannel! Or some other Canadian stereotype, I haven't thought this through yet.

    3. Tim Odell Avatar
      Tim Odell

      I guess it's the post itself. As in, if you want more posts like this, rate-up.
      I think it's funny, b/c it really ought to be a binary thing (like the thumbs-ups), as most people either root for something or against it, not on some arbitrary sliding scale.

      1. Deartháir Avatar
        Deartháir

        Done and done!

      2. Age_of_Aerostar Avatar
        Age_of_Aerostar

        sounds good, thanks!

      3. muthalovin Avatar

        Agreed. Only people who are not paying any attention (read: jerks) will rate articles at 3 stars.

  15. skitter Avatar
    skitter

    There are circumstances where a comment disappears, and replying is supposed to make it magically re-appear.
    Not that I understand how you reply to a lost comment.

    1. Vavon Avatar
      Vavon

      Hi Skitter!
      It's me, Vavon, from the Nibbles-place.
      I have a small question: how do you become a commenter here?
      Sorry for jacking this thread!

      1. Deartháir Avatar
        Deartháir

        It's an off-topic thread. You can't really get off-topic more. 😉
        Bold-ified so that maybe people will see it:
        HOW TO BECOME A COMMENTER!
        The best way: Go to IntenseDebate and sign up for an account there. Worry not, my young Padawan, there will be no further repercussions. They do not sell your info or spam you. They're good people. (Oh, and neither do we.)
        Bring that account info, once it's all set up, back here, and click the blue IntenseDebate Login button below the comment boxes. This will allow you to sign in, track comments, rate people up and down, be rated up and down, and collect points which can be redeemed for fabulous prizes!*
        *Points cannot actually be redeemed for fabulous prizes.

        1. Vavon Avatar
          Vavon

          Thank you Master Yoda!
          I will try that!

        2. vavon205 Avatar
          vavon205

          YAY!!! It works!

          1. skitter Avatar
            skitter

            While IntenseDebate has been relatively trouble free for me, (XP Pro, Firefox 3.6), it often makes me type in my username and email when submitting a comment. It generally links these comments correctly and immediately to my account.
            And with little provocation, Mad_Science or another admin would probably give a wild-eyed contradiction of my experience.
            Edit: Good to see you, by the way.
            Edit 2: And you can edit any comment that warrants an insanity plea has no reply.
            And we have the usual HTML tools: image embedding, italics i bold b underline u and strikethrough strike

    2. mdharrell Avatar

      What generally works for me is to post a second reply to the comment to which I had just replied. I then immediately delete this second attempt (which is usually just a tap of the space bar anyway). Voilà! As long as nobody notices and posts their own reply to my blank comment in the few seconds it takes to post and delete it, it's a seamless recovery.

      1. Deartháir Avatar
        Deartháir

        Which works, except that many times if you delete the second response, the original reply will re-vanish.

        1. mdharrell Avatar

          I've seen that mentioned but it hasn't yet happened to me. I wonder whether at least some of those instances might be from attempts to re-post an identically-worded response, followed by deleting the original attempt when both suddenly appear adjacent to one another, which then takes the second attempt with it.
          Or perhaps it's all just an arbitrary maelstrom of chaos and despair.

          1. Deartháir Avatar
            Deartháir

            Blame Lucas Hoonibbles. Or Jeff Glucker. Whenever anything goes wrong around here, I blame Jeff.
            Nine times out of ten, I'm actually right.

    3. Deartháir Avatar
      Deartháir

      If you reply to the same comment as you were originally replying to when the comment vanished, it will usually make the lost comment reappear. "Poof" is just a way of saying "Look! It's magic! The invisible comment will — ABRACADABRA! — reappear! Ta-da!"
      I've also seen "Hoonibbles Rescue Attempt", and various amusing variations. I vote for getting more creative, but I never have said creativity myself.

  16. Eggwich Avatar
    Eggwich

    I'm going to talk to a landlord tonight in a feel-you-out-but-not-up fashion about moving into the one bedroom apartment my friend will soon be leaving. Not that big, not that nice, but it has a garaged parking space, right next to another garaged parking space that no one uses. I liek gaarge praking.
    If I can't move a project car in there eventually (tbd, but this is what she wants to discuss, I fear), and since my car is still under warranty and doesn't need any actual work, what games can I play in the garage to Pretend I'm Doing Something Useful?
    So far, I'm thinking: wash car/clay car/polish car/wax car, oil changes, fluid checks, ye olde tire rotations, engine bay detailing, drinking, and drinking.
    Soon enough I can play suspension bit switcharoos and other slight modifications, but I'm trying to keep it in my pants for now. Any other garage games you all can suggest?

    1. Deartháir Avatar
      Deartháir

      I'd say move a very small air compressor and an air-powered impact wrench in there. Not to do anything particular, but just to make everyone nervous. Turn it into a place to hang out and have a drink and a cigar, but keep spinning the impact wrench so that people outside can wonder what you're working on.

      1. Eggwich Avatar
        Eggwich

        I've got the impact wrench already from using it in the garage at school, but the personal air compressor doesn't exist yet. I may need to wait a bit, as I'm afraid "noisy tools" may be the things I'll be claiming not to use tonight, but yes, this game, I like it very much.

    2. Age_of_Aerostar Avatar
      Age_of_Aerostar

      depending on your climate…. mini-fridge and a radio is a must. Everything will happen from there.

      1. Eggwich Avatar
        Eggwich

        Good points. It's warm enough here in San Francisco that the garage can definitely hold a fridge and anything else.
        My other friend was thinking of moving his family into this same place to save some money, and just turning the garage into his living room, lulz.

    3. ptschett Avatar
      ptschett

      I like the low key, normal upkeep approach. My last place had a line in the lease about not "overhauling" cars on the property; I took it to mean major engine work, frame-offs, etc. and went ahead with normal maintenance and most repairs for the cars, and whatever I felt like doing on the motorcycle.
      In my current place I have gotten a reputation of being "that guy who's always in his garage" from some of my neighbors, but I've never had a noise complaint toward me or anything. Fargo has a noise ordinance so I try to be done by the hour it takes effect, and also my current garage is short enough (only 228" inside) that I have to limit car jobs to tasks that can be done that day (usually if I'm working on a car, the tail is hanging out the door a little bit… I like more elbow room.)

      1. Eggwich James Dio Avatar
        Eggwich James Dio

        That's probably what I'll be doing too, but once I establish myself a bit, I'd like to buy a beater that needs a refreshening, refreshen it, then sell it at a minimal loss. Maybe even make enough to buy a twenty piece mcnugget on every third car or so.
        But really, I need to stabilize my debt and other things first, so that's a bit down the road. Good to know that the unofficial apartment manager works on his 83 Ranger all the time, so I don't think it will be any problem. Feels good, man.
        The garage is nice too. Good light, a little skinny, but the bay next door is always empty, hose and nice drainage, space for toolbox/fridge/piss bucket…

  17. $kaycog Avatar
    $kaycog

    Did somebody say free booze? Pink roses and chocolates would be nice too.

    1. Deartháir Avatar
      Deartháir

      Typical Skaycog. Offer free booze, and she's in there like a dirty shirt. 😉

      1. $kaycog Avatar
        $kaycog

        Have you missed me, my dear?

      2. Deartháir Avatar
        1. $kaycog Avatar
          $kaycog

          I guess that says it all. I'll probably cry myself to sleep tonight now. That's terrible!!

    2. $kaycog Avatar
      $kaycog

      Sweet! My best to Mrs. Howser, and thank you very much!

    3. Alff Avatar
      Alff

      Hiya!

      1. $kaycog Avatar
        $kaycog

        Hiya back atcha!!!! 😉

        1. Vavon Avatar
          Vavon

          Good morning!
          Let's try posting a picture today! http://www.forum-auto.com/uploads/200311/domdom_1
          Well that doesn't work…

          1. ptschett Avatar
            ptschett

            > img src="url" width="500"/ < (but with the greater-than/less-than signs switched around.) The width attribute is needed with bigger photos to keep them from being too wide for the page.
            <img src="http://www.forum-auto.com/uploads/200311/domdom_1068204650_2cvet2cvaz.jpg&quot; width="500"/>

          2. Vavon Avatar
            Vavon

            Thanks, I just saw your comment!

        2. Vavon Avatar
          Vavon

          How about a video then…[youtube RdvYJW1pN6g http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdvYJW1pN6g youtube]

          1. $kaycog Avatar
            $kaycog

            That's a great French video! I've seen the commercial before, but the first part in French is real neat!
            I'll see if I can still post pics here.
            Oops……..I screwed up.

          2. Vavon Avatar
            Vavon

            I'm glad you like it!!!
            How did you post that pretty Ford-GT-in-France picture?

          3. $kaycog Avatar
            $kaycog

            Type:
            >img src="put image link here"<
            BUT! Reverse the > and < from the way I typed it.

          4. Age_of_Aerostar Avatar
            Age_of_Aerostar

            Once you get the "coding" for imbedding pictures right… then what I do is to just save it as a Notebook (.txt) file, and then cut and paste from there.
            While I'm not the brightest, I do OK with getting around my shortcomings!
            Here's a link for Embeding images: http://hooniverse.info/2010/08/03/how-to-embed-ima

          5. $kaycog Avatar
            $kaycog

            I just saw ptschett's comment about adding the "width=500", which is new to me, but he knows more about. I'm going to post this pic the way he said.
            <img src="http://www.stingraysstudios.com/images/lra-ford-gt-poster.jpg"width="500"/&gt;

          6. $kaycog Avatar
            $kaycog

            It worked, and I see the importance not to have GIANT images posted.

          7. Vavon Avatar
            Vavon

            <img src="http://img2.netcarshow.com/Peugeot-107_2005_1024x768_wallpaper_10.jpg&quot; width="500">
            If it works I haz a smile…

          8. $kaycog Avatar
            $kaycog

            Good job! Now you're in business!

          9. Vavon Avatar
            Vavon

            New places always take time getting used to. But I think I'm starting to like this. It's not perfect either,but it's way better then 5.0!

          10. Age_of_Aerostar Avatar
            Age_of_Aerostar

            save the 5.0 for Vanilla Ice.
            (dammit, the 5.0 is back and it's awesome)

          11. Vavon Avatar
            Vavon

            Oh please!
            You really want me to upload the Youtube clip?
            Hahaha 😉

    4. zsm Avatar
      zsm

      I'm drinking a vodka mixed with crushed black peppers right now, but that's cause my tummy is upset. Tends to cure it or bring on the inevitable unenviable sooner at least.

      1. zsm Avatar
        zsm

        No. No. It is most certainly not awesome…

        1. zsm Avatar
          zsm

          I know, thanks. I was milking for more humor, didn't work 😉

  18. Vavon Avatar
    Vavon

    How about a glass of pink Zinfandel instead?

    1. $kaycog Avatar
      $kaycog

      You talking to me?

      1. vavon205 Avatar
        vavon205

        Evidently!

        1. $kaycog Avatar
          $kaycog

          Fancy seeing you here. Have you joined? Be sure you sign up for the email notification.

          1. Age_of_Aerostar Avatar
            Age_of_Aerostar

            Friends!!!!!!!!

          2. $kaycog Avatar
            $kaycog

            Hey! I know you!! We do get around, don't we?

          3. vavon205 Avatar
            vavon205

            Hello!!!! Good to see you!!!

          4. Age_of_Aerostar Avatar
            Age_of_Aerostar

            I was trying to post this on our picture thread "over there", but it hasn't worked.
            <img src="http://static.funnyjunk.com/pictures/62f9608f_0856_0d92.jpg&quot; width="400">

          5. vavon205 Avatar
            vavon205

            So much doesn't work!
            And Ray's comments didn't help either…
            I think I will be coming here more and more…

          6. Deartháir Avatar
            Deartháir

            Sigh. Was Maurice getting a bit heavy in the mouth again? What happened now?

          7. Age_of_Aerostar Avatar
            Age_of_Aerostar

            They changed the format, everything's fucked up. It sucks. I think I'm done. No fun anymore.

          8. Deartháir Avatar
            Deartháir

            That's pretty much exactly how Hooniverse got started. "That's it, we're outta here."

          9. awwwcrap Avatar
            awwwcrap

            Well thanks for having us. That new format is the nail in the coffin.

          10. zsm Avatar
            zsm

            Welcome!

          11. zsm Avatar
            zsm

            I know, right! I'm all giddy and light headed!

          12. vavon205 Avatar
            vavon205

            Yes, yes, I have joined. I'm vavon205 again! As Vavon was already taken…

          13. Deartháir Avatar
            Deartháir

            If you go to your IntenseDebate profile, and click on "Edit Profile", you can actually change your display name, regardless of what your IntenseDebate account name is. 🙂

          14. Eggwich James Dio Avatar
            Eggwich James Dio

            Yes, thanks for this! And I admit, I thought of changing my name to Dearthair just to be a wanker. Sorry in advance.

          15. Deartháir Avatar
            Deartháir

            Play nice now, or I'll start administering beatings!
            No, not really, I was just channeling Maurice for a sec there.

    2. Alff Avatar
      Alff

      Bon jour, mon ami.

      1. Vavon Avatar
        Vavon

        Bonjour a toi aussi!

    3. zsm Avatar
      zsm

      I'm just commenting here because I was unable to see your pink Zinfandel in Latest Activity just moments ago.

      1. zsm Avatar
        zsm

        When I replied, it showed-up in the list. Lucas you pest!

  19. ptschett Avatar
    ptschett

    Daaaaamn. With where it got hit I'd be worried it tweaked the rear suspension.

  20. Alff Avatar
    Alff

    Serious, non-sarcastic question… Asking price for the car or offered insurance settlement for the damage?

    1. Alff Avatar
      Alff

      Gotcha. I clicked through. Not sure what universe he lives in but in mine becoming an "antique next year" does not increase its value.

  21. muthalovin Avatar

    Would it be possible to put the Off-Topic Thread someplace permanent, like next to the About page?
    I mean, its pretty easy to get here, but it could be simpler.
    Just curious.

    1. Deartháir Avatar
      Deartháir

      I'll look into that… assuming Tim doesn't have a shit-fit at the idea. 😉

  22. Deartháir Avatar
    Deartháir

    For anyone afraid of losing comments in this giant maelstrom of activity, at the top of the comments, you can sort them by "Last Activity". That usually brings the newest comments up to the top and makes it a bit easier to not lose new stuff. Maybe it'll help?

    1. Eggwich James Dio Avatar
      Eggwich James Dio

      Wow, "last activity" sort is AWESOME. I'm way too excited about that.

    2. zsm Avatar
      zsm

      Crap it does not work right though. When I clicked on that "Last Activity" link I could no longer see the comment thread started by Vavon which begins:
      How about a glass of pink Zinfandel instead?

      1. Deartháir Avatar
        Deartháir

        Hm. It's showing up just fine for me. You're sure you didn't click "Rating"? IntenseDebate will give preference to comments made with IntenseDebate accounts, regardless of the "score" rating on the side, unless the "anonymous" account has a much, much higher score.

        1. zsm Avatar
          zsm

          That seems logical, I am usually to blame after all. Thanks.

          1. Deartháir Avatar
            Deartháir

            Oh no, it's usually just Lucas' fault. Or Jeff Glucker. But I can't re-create the symptoms, so I can't diagnose the problem.
            As such, I'll just say it's probably your carburetor, and it'll need a re-build. Cost ya about $500.

  23. zsm Avatar
    zsm

    Thanks again.

  24. Deartháir Avatar
    Deartháir

    So here's a question for the masses here: Shall we just keep this one going, or do a new off-topic thread weekly?

    1. Deartháir Avatar
      Deartháir

      No offense to Gawker, but aside from Lucas Hoonibbles' affection for om-nomming random comments, our commenting engine should actually be MORE robust than Gawker's, because we're just trying to let you comment, not track your entire history of discussion in fifteen different places, with networked links between a dozen different sites. It's nowhere near as pretty as Gawker's, but it's a whole lot simpler, which means there are less things to break.
      Having said that, it is powered by Lucas Electrics, so it could go up in a puff of Magic Smoke at any moment. But that's half the fun!
      We've had quite a few heavily-commented articles already, a few with over 200 comments, and the system held up with no difficulties, so I'm guessing we'll be fine. But there's only one way to find out!

    2. BlackIce_GTS Avatar
      BlackIce_GTS

      Given the timidity with which it stands up to regular-density commenting, I would posit 'not well'.
      Lets everybody keep saying things and see what hopefully-localized disaster may transpire and be blamed on the mere mention of Lucas.

    3. zsm Avatar
      zsm

      That HCOTY post became unloadable on my computer at home when it hit a certain number of comments. Just a blank page and busy computer, maybe a bit after a hundred comments. This one worked last night still on that same computer.
      Maybe there is a way to automate making a new one in the wee hours of the morning? Also to add a link to the top of the previous one to the new one and close commenting on the last one. But then you'd lose the nice topic for the off topic and well we won't be able to blow ZomBee Racer's mind. I also don't like clicking all the 'N replies' to see everything. I'm already thumbs-up-ing almost everything. Maybe a new one every Friday or something with a link at the top to make it easy to find would be good? Oh and thanks for creating this offtopic place. It was a great idea!

  25. RustyVanHorn Avatar
    RustyVanHorn

    I feel strange posting here, but I may as well start somewhere. At least the threads kinda make sense. Welcome fellow former partners in crime, greetings new associates.
    So what have I missed this last week?

    1. zsm Avatar
      zsm

      Wagon Wednesdays! Get right on it.

  26. optixtruf Avatar
    optixtruf

    Hey guys, First time posting here.
    Jalopnik guys should know me well.
    I talk to BZR a lot, does that count?

    1. Eggwich James Dio Avatar
      Eggwich James Dio

      Nope, doesn't count.

      1. zsm Avatar
        zsm

        Yeah, people with 3 letter nicknames don't ever count for much. Seriously now, glad to see you and everyone else new here opti!

  27. Jeff Glucker Avatar
    Jeff Glucker

    Question for all of you…
    Would you like to see an actual forum? (a long the lines of a small scale version of VW Vortex)
    Would some of you be interested in becoming moderators of that forum to help police spam, junk, anything crossing that arbitrary line, etc?
    email me at Jeff@Hooniverse.com if you are interested

    1. zsm Avatar
      zsm

      http://becauseracecar.com/index.php?topic=12.15
      Somebody tried something like this already for jalop. I don't think it worked out so great, plus something like these offtopic posts if they keep-up will be great. I don't like how in forums you can only see a title without clikcing to read all the comments.

      1. Deartháir Avatar
        Deartháir

        I tend to agree. I'd prefer to keep everyone here in Hooniverse, rather than sending them somewhere else, just hosted by Hooniverse. We don't wanna kill the conversation on any other articles!

    2. RSDeuce Avatar
      RSDeuce

      I don't know what the overall volume of posts this place gets is, but a very small forum might work.
      I don't know that the issue is needing a new space to talk as much as needing a comment system that can keep a long thread from getting cluttered. I liked this system fine before this off topic thread, only because I can't even find a previous convo I was following without lots of searching and it seems comments are being eaten by the hour.
      One thing I have not seen in many places… Comments and forums integrated. Please see the example below:
      http://www.bit-tech.net/news/gaming/2011/02/03/co
      This is an article. You can sign in and comment. However, if you click the "Discuss in forums" link you are taken to the forums. Where the SAME conversation exists. The comments *are* forum posts. Seamless.
      They have a huge amount of additional forums, but the key here is the hybrid. You can follow the comments on an article, but if an off-topic or very lively on-topic discussion comes up you can transfer to the forums where it will be easier to follow along with the conversation after many days.
      This might give you the chance to let comments flesh themselves out, and maintain a small but dedicated forum structure for all the other things we might want to bring up.

      1. BlackIce_GTS Avatar
        BlackIce_GTS

        That's super, lets do that. (giddiness tempered by 'that looks like it's tricky to implement')
        The thing about blog structure is that comments will quickly die off once the article gets off the main page, it's a disinclination to continue discussion. With forum structure, the most recently active thread is on top, so discussion will die off naturally, regardless of the thread's age.
        FWIW, I've been a forum mod twice. Although the second time my job was just to delete spam threads, since the board had about 10 people on it.

      2. Deartháir Avatar
        Deartháir

        But how does this compare with, say, a new BMW, which I can equally afford?
        I think we'd all love something like that, but unfortunately most systems like that cost… uh… what's that stuff called again? Right… "money". Something we all haven't seen in so long we've forgotten what it looks like. In seriousness, this is a totally voluntary operation, and the only person making money off this is Jeff, and that's all being siphoned to his Swiss bank accounts where it can't be tracked, until he runs away with his new yacht and his new friends. (None of that is true, nobody's making money off this, we're just trying to cover our hosting fees.) We don't really have the resources to implement a custom commenting system, unless you know someone who can steal that site's system for us when they're not looking.

        1. RSDeuce Avatar
          RSDeuce

          I understand all that. I was just bringing up a conceptual option. The mention of a forum means that the possibility of change, and BitTech is a site I have always held as ideal when it came to comment integration.
          They are running a vBulletin forum in the background, which is probably the most common and depending on scope can be pretty inexpensive. I don't know what links the comments and forums (for all I know it could be anything from custom to a built in vBulletin option no one ever uses.)

          1. Deartháir Avatar
            Deartháir

            Oh I'm not saying "no", I'm saying "We'd love to… but probably not tomorrow. Or the next day. Or anytime soon." 🙂 It's an excellent idea, but will take a lot of investigation on our part. On the other hand, if you wanna DO the investigation for us, and tell us how it's set up, we'll be all over that!!

    3. Eggwich James Dio Avatar
      Eggwich James Dio

      I feel like VWVortex/The Car Lounge does the general car forum extremely well; why reinvent it? I love TCL with all my heart.

  28. zsm Avatar
    zsm

    My 256th comment, did it work? Yes, I was worried with my last one being 0xff and thought Hoonibbles Lucas may have been as thrifty with bits as Joe Lucas was with fuses.

  29. Alff Avatar
    Alff

    Just curious. How many of the Hoons play poker?

    1. Age_of_Aerostar Avatar
      Age_of_Aerostar

      I like to play, but I'm not good at it at all. Used to play Texas Hold 'Em on the Blackberry a lot.
      But….. is this still the "official" off-topic place, or did we all go elsewhere, or did it just fizzle out?

  30. McQueen Avatar
    McQueen

    429 or new Coyote ? I have a 68 Galaxie and I am in the middle of doing a heart transplant on it , do I re and re the 429 out of a 69 Mercury Marauder ( About $5500 ) or crate Coyote ( About $6100 ) ?

  31. McQueen Avatar
    McQueen

    Has anybody been experiencing problems with this "Off topic" thread on their iPhone ? Mine isn't showing all the comments

  32. smokyburnout Avatar
    smokyburnout

    The comment thread for this ol' article has turned into a classifieds page for kit cars: http://hooniverse.info/2010/02/05/yamon-jamaican-i
    Interesting.

  33. muthalovin Avatar

    So, guys, I finally got my 100p. I like the way the extra digit feels… It feels…. nice.

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