Acura Type S Concept

The News for August 16th, 2019

Welcome to the Hooniverse News! As always, this is a weekly recap of the biggest stories in the automotive industry without the fluff or bull. This week, Acura stuns with the Type S Concept, Shelby GT500 tech starts sharing hardware with the GT350R, Dodge celebrates 50 years of the Charger Daytona, Ford adds FX2 off-road package for the Ranger, and Chevrolet reveals official pricing for the C8 Corvette.

Acura Type S Concept

Acura Type S Concept

As promised, Acura took the covers off a concept that will help usher in a new era of Acura performance. And it’s stunning. Making its public debut at The Quail, a Motorsports Gathering (which I have to say is still one of the dumbest names for a car show I’ve ever heard) today is the Acura Type S Concept, a design study that will set the stage for the return of the Type S and heavily influence the character of future production models bearing the name.

Acura Type S Concept

The Acura design team set out to express the essence of “Precision Crafted Performance“, which has been the brand’s tagline since the 2nd-generation NSX was introduced. They did that through the car’s stance, proportions, and a silhouette that is “powerful and expressive, yet clean and cohesive”. It has the sports car essentials like a wide track, low stance, a long hood, and short overhangs. The concept introduces two reworked design traits from Acura’s current lineup, those being the Diamond Pentagon grille with a new intricate pattern and next-gen four-lamp “Jewel Eye” LED headlights. Some of the details go beyond sports cars though, like the “chicane” daytime running lights and taillights which were influenced by the ARX-05 Daytona Prototype car that’s currently one of the top players in IMSA.

Acura Type S Concept

The styling of the front fascia is aggressive and outrageously beautiful but also functional. Large air intakes would be sized appropriately for routing air to “a high-performance engine” (no details were given) and Brembo brake package. At the business end is an upswept decklid with a sharply creased centerline drawn from the hood, an integrated forged carbon spoiler, rear diffuser, and chrome quad-tip exhaust. The 21″ multi-spoke wheels wear high-performance summer tires in a square 285 setup which would be ideal for handling on and off the track.

Acura Type S Concept

There’s really no sure indication as to whether we’ll see this car in production, but they have promised that two Acuras will debut with the Type S badge in the next two years with heavy influences from this thing. Those cars should be a TLX and NSX (if they don’t want to call it a Type R instead). They will most likely just be the RDX and MDX because the wrong suits will get involved.

[Source: Acura]

2020 Mustang Shelby GT350R

GT350R

The GT500 isn’t the only Shelby getting love as we roll into the 2020 model year. The wonderful Shelby GT350R is getting a few tweaks to enhance its driving characteristics even more, and it’s done so using a few things from the GT500 itself. Ford says this won’t be the last time that lessons learned from the GT500 trickle down into other parts of the Mustang lineup.

The GT350R’s 2020 refinements start with new front suspension geometry with a redesigned high-trail steering knuckle taken from the GT500. Expect better front end bite and responsiveness out of that. Ford also swapped in a new steering rack and recalibrated electric power steering for greater steering precision. That’s it for the new hardware – a short list but with big improvements.

GT350R

Meanwhile, some new paint colors from the GT500 also get added to both GT350s – Grabber Lime, Twister Orange, Iconic Silver, and Red Hot Metallic. One thing that hasn’t changed is how awesome the GT350 lineup is.

[Source: Ford]

 Charger SRT Hellcat Widebody Daytona 50th Anniversary Edition

derdge dayterner

Meanwhile, at the Woodward Dream Cruise, Dodge revealed another price gouging opportunity for dealerships. It’s the Charger SRT Hellcat Widebody Daytona 50th Anniversary Edition, which is one of those names that tells you everything there is to know about it right up front. It’s a Charger SRT Hellcat Widebody. It celebrates 50 years of the Charger Daytona which was a groundbreaking moment for Dodge, being the first car to break 200 mph average lap speed at Daytona. And it has the words Anniversary Edition at the end, so the dealer markups just shot up about 15%. On top of that only 501 examples are being built (just like the original Charger Daytona) so that means dealer markups are now approximately 50%. It goes on sale in the fall.

[Source: Dodge]

Ford Ranger FX2

ranger fx2

Ford is adding another off road trim level to the revived Ranger later this year. Based on the popular FX4 package, it gets an FX2 package for those who want some extra off road capability in a rear-wheel-drive Ranger for those who don’t need 4WD to have fun off the pavement.

The FX2 package rides on 17″ or 18″ wheels with off road tires and off-road tuned suspension which helps it adapt to whatever terrain you have the guts to throw at it. It also rocks a front underbody guard and air dam-delete for extra protection and approach angle clearance. Crucially, there’s also an electronic-locking rear differential and an off-road gauge cluster screen with pitch, roll, and yaw data shown in real time.

As if Ford needed to justify adding another off road package for truck buyers to throw money at, they claim one in every three Rangers is equipped with the FX4 package. By adding an off-road-ready package with a more common drivetrain and a bit of a price difference ($595 as opposed to $1,295 for the FX4), Ford is expecting to tap into even more buyers.

Meanwhile, Hooniverse anticipates that nine out of ten Ranger FX2 buyers will be looking for aftermarket FX4 stickers.

[Source: Ford]

2020 Corvette Official Pricing

2020 Chevrolet Corvette Stingray

When Chevrolet was wrapping up their live debut of the all-new C8 Corvette a few weeks ago, one of their suits stood up on stage and claimed that the new mid-engine sports car would start under $60,000. Assumptions were made almost immediately that it would start at $59,999. “Don’t be silly”, Chevrolet execs must have said. “We’re not gonna sell it for $59,999….”

“We’re gonna sell it for $59,995“.

That is the official starting price of the base C8 Corvette and that includes destination charges. The Corvette at that price range is the 1LT trim level which includes the basics – 490-horsepower V8, 8-speed dual clutch, and other tech features. It’ll fit the bill for most casual buyers, as demonstrated by their choice of tires – all season run flats. The next trim levels add more luxury and tech, like the nose lift system which stores locations for automatic activation which can only be had on the 2LT and 3LT trims. Those start at $67,295 and $71,945 respectively.

Then there’s the package we would all want. The Z51 performance package (pictured). That adds 5 horsepower, performance exhaust, performance suspension, electronic performance limited slip differential, performance front and rear spoilers, boosted performance brakes, Michelin Pilot Sport 4S performance summer tires, and extra performance cooling for all that performance is a $5,000 option and can be had on any trim level. So at a minimum, buyers looking for more performance out of their Corvette will be spending at least $64,995 for a 1LT Z51. Any more money would just make you more comfortable… until the Z06 arrives.

I know a lot of people are excited about this car and its price. But if you want some advice, just wait a little bit. Once the first production C8 sells at Barrett-Jackson to a Hawaiian shirt enthusiast and all the dealerships have sold their first allotments for $200,000 because they’re assholes who want to ruin things for everyone so their manager can get a bonus, maybe then you’ll have a chance to buy a C8 for its true MSRP. And if you still can’t, we start an uprising.

[Source: Chevrolet]

What’s Your Automotive News?

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That’s all I’ve got for you this week, so now it’s your turn. If you saw anything, fixed something, broke everything, or otherwise did anything even remotely car related that you want to share with your fellow hoon, sound off in the comments.

Have a good weekend.

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44 responses to “The News for August 16th, 2019”

  1. Sjalabais Avatar
    Sjalabais

    Yesterday, I finally sold my Honda for the lousy price of 6000 NOK (strangely 666$ as of today). That’s about half of what I considered it worth, but good times economically have removed the bottom of the car marked, or so it seems. The van went to a 17 yo as his first car, which is pretty exciting even for me, and the reason I agreed on the relatively low offer right away.

    Now, the driveway looks empty.

    1. 0A5599 Avatar
      0A5599

      The seller of my son’s first hoonmobile put an ad on Craigslist and let inquiries come in all morning, then called two of us back in the afternoon. He mentioned he selected us specifically because we used the term “teenage” (or maybe it was “high school”). I offered a little less than his asking price, and he counteroffered even LESS than my offer, because he wanted to see it go to a good home.

      You did a good deed yesterday.

      1. Sjalabais Avatar
        Sjalabais

        Awesome, great to hear that this kind of sentimentality is a thing. The kid send me an enthusiastic pic of the car at his home the next morning, too.

    2. nanoop Avatar

      Now how will you fill that void: a boat, an ATV?

      1. Sjalabais Avatar
        Sjalabais

        How about massive, unsolicited depression? ? Honestly though, I went right back to ~Craigslist. I guess we’ll spend the winter figuring out what to do with the Camry. I really want a powerful, manual wagon again, but these seem to be getting quite rare. So for now…nothing new.

        1. nanoop Avatar

          There is no void a proper midlife crisis can’t fill!

  2. Batshitbox Avatar
    Batshitbox

    I’ve been playing the game of “Daily Drive or Cliff Dive” with two vehicles that have come up for sale.

    The 14th Dalai Lama’s 1966 Land Rover
    https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/af19/auburn-fall/lots/r0043-1966-land-rover-series-iia-88/789593

    and Elvis Presley’s 1967 Lincoln Limousine
    https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0819-381143/1967-lincoln-continental-lehmann-peterson-limousine/

    I think I’d DD the Land Rover, because reincarnation; and drive the Lincoln over a cliff, because that seems like a very rock’n’roll thing to do. I know Elvis loved his cars, but he also shot a couple of them.

    Psychiatrists will tell you these decisions are based on my longing for my 1965 Land Rover, which I never got to really enjoy and lost through bad timing, and my lingering resentment towards the 1967 Continental that I got catapulted out the back door of when I was 2 years old. But that’s silly, right?

    1. Jeff Glucker Avatar
      Jeff Glucker

      Oh man I love those old Rovers

    2. 0A5599 Avatar
      0A5599

      Well, if reincarnation is a factor in the decision, then that would tilt the scales towards the DL’s LR. Because after you crash it, it will come back

      1. Vairship Avatar
        Vairship

        “Because after you crash itit dies on you, it will come back to life“.FTFY. Yes, it will be the first reliable british car!

      2. Vairship Avatar
        Vairship

        “Because after you crash itit dies on you, it will come back to life“.FTFY. Yes, it will be the first reliable british car!

      3. Lokki Avatar
        Lokki

        Since my wife is Japanese, I presume to some knowledge of reincarnation – it is not a straightforward path. Whether you progress or fall downward on the path towards Nirvana depends on your Karma®️. As the Land Rover shown in the ad faithfully served the Dali Lama it has returned to existence as an improved version of its former self; better than the day it left the factory. However, the most common form of reincarnation for old Land Rovers seems to be as barnyard ornaments.

        Just sayin’ https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/aa01787c8a8a616aacd50281b9304af39f05d7e4de9562abec0997e614d3a17d.jpg

  3. outback_ute Avatar
    outback_ute

    1. I wouldn’t call that Acura front overhang small, it looks longer than the rear overhang.
    2. No giant wing on a Charger Daytona seems wrong, at least make it optional.
    3. 8 extra performances in the Z51 package? Hey, why not, even if the ‘casual buyers’ are already getting a sub 3 sec 0-60 car (possibly not on the all seasons?)

  4. neight428 Avatar
    neight428

    They will most likely just be the RDX and MDX because the wrong suits will get involved.

    Thanks, wet blanket. I was actually going to say that they’ll take 20″ out of the wheelbase and add it to the overhangs, slap on some skinny low rolling resistance grade tires on wheels tucked way inboard of the body and only offer a CVT.

    But Kia made the Stinger, so there’s hope.

  5. kogashiwa Avatar
    kogashiwa

    Points –

    – there really needs to be a “GT230” Mustang with the EcoBoost four boosted to stratospheric levels.
    – I don’t think the Hawaiian shirt/gold chain/trophy wife set is going to buy this Corvette.

    1. Jeff Glucker Avatar
      Jeff Glucker

      I wore a Hawaiian shirt to the debut and that makes me chuckle a bit

  6. Jeff Glucker Avatar
    Jeff Glucker

    No one wants to buy my Benz.
    I’ve dropped the price down to $4,800 now…

    1. Zentropy Avatar
      Zentropy

      Wow. California must be a tough crowd. It would be long gone in the midwest at that price.

      1. Jeff Glucker Avatar
        Jeff Glucker

        Yeah I’m surprised at how few bites I’m getting… I think the broken AC is keeping people away.

        1. nanoop Avatar

          Sell it in December then.

      2. Sjalabais Avatar
        Sjalabais

        There are no “import duties” or some such thing between states, right? Why aren’t more people grabbing cheap California cars and driving them to the midwest? Seems like an awesome way to spend a weekend…or to fill a trailer with during weekdays, to be honest.

        1. 0A5599 Avatar
          0A5599

          No import duties between states though you would need to register the car in the destination state. The fees for that shouldn’t be significantly out of range of registration in California, though.

          The big reason people don’t drive California cars to the Midwest is distance (and time=money). Someplace like Ohio to Southern California by air, and then driving back to Ohio is about 40 hours plus stops. Probably $500+ in budget airfare and gasoline. And what happens if the seller didn’t disclose that the transmission is on its last legs and it finally lets go when you are 1000 miles from home? Not worth the risk on a $4800 car in its fifth decade.

          There IS a market for non-franchised dealers bringing in less-than-perfect (in other words, sold as wholesale instead of CPO) high-end trade-ins from California.

    2. salguod Avatar

      I wondered what you were asking for it. I’d be interested if, A, I hadn’t just bought my BMW 7 months ago and, B, I wasn’t a couple of thousand miles away.

        1. dead_elvis, inc. Avatar
          dead_elvis, inc.

          It’s too bad you don’t know anyone who could put it in front of a wider audience.

        2. Fuhrman16 Avatar
          Fuhrman16

          Odd. You’d think that the celebrity of being owned by the co founder of Hooniverse would add literally threes of dollars to that asking price.

        3. Sjalabais Avatar
          Sjalabais

          Any offers so far? From my experience, people who buy a car like that prefer ads with as few words as possible, and rather a list of things that have been done recently, as well as one of needs. I’m a wordy person myself and am usually astonished that over half of the people calling me haven’t read my ad – that would have answered all their questions.

          Alas, this advice might carry no weight halfway across the globe.

          1. danleym Avatar
            danleym

            This is America you’re talking about. I think you’re on point about less words. What would sell it is pictures of it doing fun stuff with pretty people around.

            That said, I read the ad and thought “Damn, that was perfect. Good pictures, honest words.”
            I know nothing about the old Mercedes market, but $4,800 seems pretty reasonable to me. The headliner does stick out as an eyesore though, and something I think a lot of people would shy away from, either from not know what it would take to fix or just not wanting to deal with it.

            I say fix the headliner and relist it for $5,000.

        4. 0A5599 Avatar
          0A5599

          Sometimes you get used to flaws to the point where you don’t notice them anymore, but they jump out at everyone else.

          What would it take for you to fix the headliner and the armrest? Those would go a long way with regard to presentation.

          Do a series on preparing a used car for sale. Bring in a detail guy and have him show you tricks of the trade, using your car as a demo. Write off the fees as a Hooniverse business expense.

          I know I mocked you for the lame personalized plate this car used to wear, but if the DMV handed me a WUS plate, I would have asked for something different.

        5. 0A5599 Avatar
          0A5599

          Sometimes you get used to flaws to the point where you don’t notice them anymore, but they jump out at everyone else.

          What would it take for you to fix the headliner and the armrest? Those would go a long way with regard to presentation.

          Do a series on preparing a used car for sale. Bring in a detail guy and have him show you tricks of the trade, using your car as a demo. Write off the fees as a Hooniverse business expense.

          I know I mocked you for the lame personalized plate this car used to wear, but if the DMV handed me a WUS plate, I would have asked for something different.

          1. nanoop Avatar

            Extra idea for the series: try flipping two identical cars with different styles of ads.

  7. kogashiwa Avatar
    kogashiwa

    Points –

    – there really needs to be a “GT230” Mustang with the EcoBoost four boosted to stratospheric levels.
    – I don’t think the Hawaiian shirt/gold chain/trophy wife set is going to buy this Corvette.

    1. nanoop Avatar

      I’m a trophy husband (brain of a chimpanzee caged in the body of a prince, such as Charles) with a knack for subversive office attire, and if my affluent wife would approve I’d consider one.

  8. kogashiwa Avatar
    kogashiwa

    Nicely done.

  9. salguod Avatar

    As a recent RSX Type S owner, the announcement of the Type S had me very curious. Seeing it has me seriously jazzed. That thing is stunning. It manages to look right at home with today’s overwrought styling (all bumps, edges and creases) while looking elegant and muscular instead of ridiculous.

    Acura / Honda has a tendency of rolling our “concepts” that are little more than production bodies with tiny mirrors, blingy wheels and special bumpers. This looks a bit more sophisticated than that (frameless glass, no door handles, doors that cover the rocker panels), but not much. The bumper cut lines look production, for example, and the general proportions seem pretty realistic.

    Now, if they top it off with the Civic Type R drive train (including the 6 speed) and SH-AWD that would be fantastic.

    We can hope, right?

  10. onrails Avatar
    onrails

    The worlds slowest (but coolest) road happens tomorrow north of Motown with the Woodward Dream Cruise. If I wake up early I may head down there in the SS and run up and down the road once or twice before it turns into a parking lot. Then to Flint’s Back to the Bricks cruise to do the same and then home for some garage time. Mostly dependent on Thing 2 and if she wants to go look at cars with dad tomorrow.

    Or just sleep in, have a slow morning, and spend the day getting the body mounted on the new track bike getting it ready for paint. It may not happen, and there’s a ton of work still to do, but aiming for a mid-October re-debut of my super-rusty bike skills.

  11. wunno sev Avatar
    wunno sev

    just noticed this at the bottom of the page:
    “Hooniverse is a trademark of Hoonigan used with permission”

    what’s the deal with that? is that new?

    1. dead_elvis, inc. Avatar
      dead_elvis, inc.

      Been there for about forever, iirc. But I don’t remember ever seeing it addressed.

  12. SlowJoeCrow Avatar
    SlowJoeCrow

    The right sticker for a Ranger FX2 would be “Pre Runner” like the old TRD package on 2WD Tacomas. Both historically and conceptually accurate, especially with a small bullbar/skidplate up front and a rollbar/lightbar behind the cab.

  13. wunno sev Avatar
    wunno sev

    just noticed this at the bottom of the page:
    “Hooniverse is a trademark of Hoonigan used with permission”

    what’s the deal with that? is that new?

    1. 0A5599 Avatar
      0A5599

      It looks like Hoonigan filed a trademark application in 2014, about 5 full years after this site went live. The application makes note of the 2009 first use.

      I suppose Hoonigan asked Tim and Jeff for permission to allow the trademark, and in return granted a perpetual license to use the name, plus gave them some glorious cash and prizes.

      https://trademarks.justia.com/863/64/hooniverse-86364522.html

      Let's open with a Bricklin SV-1

  14. Lokki Avatar
    Lokki

    Does anyone have any experience with those ‘Do it yourself’ epoxy-paint for garage floors kits like this one (Grabbed from the Net at random)?

    https://www.homedepot.com/p/Rust-Oleum-EpoxyShield-240-oz-Gray-High-Gloss-2-5-Car-Garage-Floor-Kit-301355/206479008

    My concrete garage floor is looking pretty ratty after 20 years, and I’m considering expoy-coating it, either doing it myself or having it done. I never trust the customer reviews on something like this because most people give it a 5 star rating before it even dries, and the 1 star ratings are usually people who used the instructions as a clean place to sit.

    I am leaning towards have a Pro do it, although I suspect the cost of that means just no doing it at all.

    Appreciate any input or experience….

  15. Lokki Avatar
    Lokki

    Does anyone have any experience with those ‘Do it yourself’ epoxy-paint for garage floors kits like this one (Grabbed from the Net at random)?

    https://www.homedepot.com/p/Rust-Oleum-EpoxyShield-240-oz-Gray-High-Gloss-2-5-Car-Garage-Floor-Kit-301355/206479008

    My concrete garage floor is looking pretty ratty after 20 years, and I’m considering expoy-coating it, either doing it myself or having it done. I never trust the customer reviews on something like this because most people give it a 5 star rating before it even dries, and the 1 star ratings are usually people who used the instructions as a clean place to sit.

    I am leaning towards have a Pro do it, although I suspect the cost of that means just no doing it at all.

    Appreciate any input or experience….