Last Call: Can’t even defend against water

The Land Rover Defender represents an irrational case of WANT in my brain. I know it’s not the greatest machine out there, yet I still desire to own one. And I will, someday. Before that happens, I will continue to read about how they’re terrible machines. Case in point; the below tweet from Sniff Petrol. He took his Defender to the car wash. This means both he and his interior were also washed as well.

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    1. If you use the heat, the range is reduced by about 40%. Is that a brand new one? We leased a 2015 for 2 years. If you don’t have a level 2 charger at home, get one. Amazon sells them for a little over $200 over here. I’ve been using a cheap one from Amazon for over 2 years with our Volt with no issues. Be prepared for abnormally high tire wear (less than 24k miles on a set), heavy car with skinny tires. Congrats.

      1. Yeah, I’ve read that winter range here in Norway is about 80kms. I have this super steep driveway (up to 35 degrees, 50m long – not kidding) that’s unusable in the winter. So right now I am charging it at an outlet I have at the top of my driveway, to check if it works. Only type 1 for now, but if EV life is for us, we may prepare ourselves better soon. Chademo network exists everywhere here, too. It’s a 24kWh 2012 with original tires that need to be replaced based on age alone. 72000km, about 8000$. That’s a good deal here, but I guess you get those almost for free by now? Also one thing I am not sure of: I don’t drive my gas cars cold for short distances. No such considerations with EVs, right?

      2. Yeah, I’ve read that winter range here in Norway is about 80kms. I have this super steep driveway (up to 35 degrees, 50m long – not kidding) that’s unusable in the winter. So right now I am charging it at an outlet I have at the top of my driveway, to check if it works. Only type 1 for now, but if EV life is for us, we may prepare ourselves better soon. Chademo network exists everywhere here, too. It’s a 24kWh 2012 with original tires that need to be replaced based on age alone. 72000km, about 8000$. That’s a good deal here, but I guess you get those almost for free by now? Also one thing I am not sure of: I don’t drive my gas cars cold for short distances. No such considerations with EVs, right?

      3. Yeah, I’ve read that winter range here in Norway is about 80kms. I have this super steep driveway (up to 35 degrees, 50m long – not kidding) that’s unusable in the winter. So right now I am charging it at an outlet I have at the top of my driveway, to check if it works. Only type 1 for now, but if EV life is for us, we may prepare ourselves better soon. Chademo network exists everywhere here, too. It’s a 24kWh 2012 with original tires that need to be replaced based on age alone. 72000km, about 8000$. That’s a good deal here, but I guess you get those almost for free by now? Also one thing I am not sure of: I don’t drive my gas cars cold for short distances. No such considerations with EVs, right?

        1. I think that is about the going price here. They were about giving them away 2 years ago, because everyone that could in my state, Georgia, leased one before the tax incentive expired ( worked out to about $70/month, 0 down for the lease after tax rebate). I missed the chance to buy my 24k mile, level 3 charge equipped model for $6400 out the door.
          The only cold driving consideration is that you can pre-heat the car while it is still charging to conserve the battery. Nice thing is the heat works almost instantly, dont have to wait on coolant to heat up.

          1. I actually remember well how you explained those incentives earlier – quite unbeatable! Surprised through that they hold their value so well. Pretty excited, this purchase felt good, great seller, too (private party).

          2. The Honda is on its way out. It’s newly tech inspected though and not worth much, so I guess we’ll keep it around for a few more months to get some work done on the house. We’re looking to replace the Camry with a normal petrol wagon, too, within 15 months or so. Looking at alternatives is half the fun of buying.

          3. The window sticker for mine said MSRP was over $40,000. They do seem to have plateaued in the upper 4 figure range.

          4. With my unhealthy obsession of roundel things, I’ve been caught looking at used i3s with the range extender (I’m sorry, no matter how many times I read that, it feels like a spam email from the late 90s). Mid teens. But then I think about trying to fix it when it breaks, cause it will break, and, yeah….perhaps not…

          5. With its skinny tires and the weird kink in its profile, it looks a bit foolish from the outside, but especially the birchwood interior is one of the coolest car interiors I have seen. Very popular car here, too.

            We went on a trip to the village today, us four in the Leaf. It’s about 8 kms, which consumed 40 kms of range. My household council overlord is now highly sceptical and a bit angry at my optimism and car advice. Oops.

          6. It’s sad how the car/project optimism filter isn’t transferable. It’s uphill to the village, I’m sure, you probably got those lost 32 km’s back in regeneration on the return trip.

          7. It’s sad how the car/project optimism filter isn’t transferable. It’s uphill to the village, I’m sure, you probably got those lost 32 km’s back in regeneration on the return trip.

  1. Every frameless windowed car I’ve had provides an internal spray at the car wash, of course they’ve never been younger than a decade.

    1. My 2002 BMW 325Ci has frameless windows and doesn’t leak in car washes. They have that annoying drop when you open it and snug up when closed feature which probably helps. It’s annoying because the passenger side doesn’t work properly and the glass hits the body shell with a very unsettling clank when you close the door.

      1. Funny, my 02 325ci does the same thing on the passenger side only with the hardtop on. Its fine with the soft top, I suppose because theres no trim to run into. I was thinking a guy could move the regulator mount down a bit so that doesnt happen but dont want to pull the card off to try since I mainly drive it in the summer without the hardtop.

        1. Interesting that we all have 2002 E46 2 doors.

          I think my regulator is going bad, common problem in BMWs of the era. It’s also slower than the driver’s side and there’s a pop when the window is about midway down.

          1. I haven’t had issues with that yet. I only have the leak in the high pressure washes too. It’s really a minor niggle for what can break on an old BMW.

          2. My main issue now is increased oil consumption. I have 203 turns on the clock and a mechanic told me thats the time to start looking at a rebuilt head. Bottom ends are usually very durable. So we’ll see now that my manual swap from hell is complete, I guess I’m due for the next project.

    2. I am guessing the Defender here has some years on it, so no surprise a jet wash can beat the seals if sprayed directly on them – they weren’t designed for high pressure water

    3. My C6 (Citroen, not Chevy, mind you) is quite waterproof, around 225 km/h the windnoise starts, though.

  2. Land Rover? Remove the plugs from the drain holes of the interior, some PO must have closed them with frozen tears or knuckle blood.

    1. My thought was, they were not so much designed to keep the water out, but rather to have water come in and not have it bother much, apart from the occupants.

      1. Relations Race Wheels RR2-S – 17×8.5’s, found them through some of the Toyota boards, fairly well recommended and the price was right.

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