False Neutral #33: Between Something And Nothing

We didn’t have a defined theme or subject for this week’s episode, so the topic is either nothing, or everything:

  • We re-examine what reliable bikes can be had for around $2000 that are suitable for occasional two-up riding.
  • Garrett confesses the lust he has in his heart for the Aprilia Tuono V4, which leads us to wonder about evolution of the term “naked bike.”
  • We opine whether the adventure bike segment is over-saturated.
  • In between all this, we invite you to tell us what bikes you think are poised to skyrocket in value. Leave us a comment about the bikes you think are sure-thing investments right now, and we might discuss your suggestion in a couple of weeks.

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False Neutral – Between Something And Nothing


Honda Shadow 750 Aero
Honda Shadow 750 American Classic Edition
Honda Shadow 1100 Sabre
1991-2003 Honda 750 Nighthawk
Honda PC800 Pacific Coast
2016 Aprilia Tuono V4
2008 Aprilia Tuono 1000
2016 KTM 1290 Super Duke R
2013 Aprilia Dorsoduro 750 ABS
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13 responses to “False Neutral #33: Between Something And Nothing”

  1. pork_rind Avatar

    Pacific Coast! Pacific Coast!

    Now, in most of my motorcycle preferences, I’m as mainstream as can be, but for some reason, the PC800 sits in this dimly lit, poorly examined corner of my wishlist. Maybe because it came out right as I ‘discovered’ motorcycles as a zero-dollar-having college student. I still have piles of ’89-’93 moto mags, and have a general fondness for many bikes from that era that would not be attractive to me were I an actual shopper at the time.

    And maybe in my strange fantasies, it represented a bike that I could _justify_. “Look at all of this storage! Imagine the practicality! I need this, not a car!” Never mind that I lived in the mountains of southwestern Virginia and had snow and ice to deal with. Nevermind that I couldn’t afford the air in the tires. Somehow it made sense. Of course, so did an FZR 400. Or an RC30.

    Maybe I was dropped on my head as a child. That could explain many things. Like why I thought a Lotus Elise was a great commuter car. I suffered with that affliction for five years until I traded it for something a little more robust.

  2. The Real Number_Six Avatar
    The Real Number_Six

    Aprilia Tuono is top on my list of bikes I’d own if it could make it to the next town without running out of gas, juuuuussstt above MotoGuzzi Griso and Aprilia RSV Mille.
    Here’s a quick list of bikes that could appreciate, based on no factual evidence:
    BMW HP2 Sport
    BMW HP2 Enduro
    Any two-stroke race replica from 1980 onwards, especially:
    Aprilia RS250
    Suzuki RGV250
    Honda NSR250
    BMW R80/100GS
    Ducati SS900 (pre-2000s)
    Ducati ur-Monsters (early aircooled examples)
    Ducati 916 and variants
    Melted bar of soap Honda Hurricanes (maybe not but they still look neat)

    1. pork_rind Avatar

      Oh yeah. I originally was going to put the Tylenol Hurricanes on my list. My list which apparently doesn’t appear here as it’s flagged as spam.

      1. Peter Tanshanomi Avatar

        No, it’s there! I can see it.

        1. pork_rind Avatar

          Nope. I replied to my original reply with a list and pictures and it’s still marked as spam when I look at my Disqus history.

          1. Peter Tanshanomi Avatar

            Bummer. I don’t see it in Hooniverse’s WordPress comment queue, so it must be stuck on the Disqus side of things — which I don’t have access to moderate.

  3. Fuhrman16 Avatar

    So with winter coming up some, will you guys start talking about snowmobiles and what not?

    1. Vairship Avatar

      Dogsleds: Malamute vs Husky.

  4. pork_rind Avatar

    I’m gonna put on the crash helmet and try again. This time, I’ll leave out the Cycle Trader links, although I’m not sure how people are going to know what to buy me…

    … in terms of bike that I think will appreciate, best advice that I can give is not to take my advice on that. But here are some bikes that I might like to add to my ‘collection’, were I to have one. I don’t think these will get any cheaper…

    Honda CBX. Am especially digging the fairing and bags treatment here. What’s the blue version of sundown stripes called?


    Honda NC35. A bike so rare in the US that I literally cannot find one for sale. Had a chance to buy one a few years ago, but my wife was with me, so I had to pretend I wasn’t interested.


    More if and when I think of them.

  5. nanoop Avatar

    I’m following you guys only loosely (no license), so maybe you’ve touched this topic already:

    Is there a 50cc vehicle out there on which a 40yo could roll to work in dignity?

    My license allows me to ride everything up to 50ccm, and my commute is, if choosing the route wisely, never above 50kph speed limit.

    It could be old, or recent, even electric. Here some foggy opinion:
    No flashy 50cc Aprilia racer (RS4 and previous), they’d give me a ‘would-be/midlife crisis’ stamp. I have a not-a-real-Porsche for that already.
    I’m not fully convinced of scooters, the knees swaying and such, and the looks are usually either too retro (Vespa) or 90ies Transformers (everything else that isn’t going for retro), but I’m willing to hear you out.
    I kind of like Kreidler Floretts, which by today suffer from generations of puberty tuning. I haven’t seen good looking, more modern equivalents neither, but I wasn’t really looking.

    Thanks for any advice!

    1. ninjabortion Avatar

      50cc is gonna be slow any way you slice it. How you face your coworkers is up to you. Electric offerings are rad these days, though i don’t know what is legal for your license in your area. The newer bicycles with electric assist are actually pretty fun these days, not sure if you’ve looked into those.

      1. pork_rind Avatar

        I’d go with the electric assist bike.

    2. mdharrell Avatar

      Were I in the market for a dignified two-wheeled moped, I’d be thinking Velosolex. On the other hand, there’s a great deal to be said in favor of the legal access to bike lanes and bike trails (at least around here) that comes with an electric-assist bike. Your mileage, so to speak, may vary.

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