Welcome to Craigslist Crapshoot, our weekly search for the most bizarre, awesome, and/or terrible vehicles that the online classifieds has to offer.
You know, a funny thing: up until about the early ’80s, if you wanted an American Car that had better than average handling you didn’t buy the “sport” suspension, you checked the box for the “heavy duty” suspension. That made everything a little bit harder and a little less roli poli, but was still a far cry from the taut composure exhibited by their European counterparts.
The thing of it was, that more capable handling was something for which American car buyers acquired a taste, and hence we got all kinds of stop-gap products that talked the European talk, but rarely walked the walk. Last week, you all found some excellent examples of this breed.
Let’s start with a car that really felt about as American as could be, but which was in fact predominantly engineered in Europe. That was the Dodge Omni found by Fuhrman16. The Omni and its Horizon twin were heavily influenced by Chrysler’s European operations, back when that was Simca and not Fiat. This one was a GLH, an edition modified by Carroll Shelby’s outfit, and thus adding yet another aspect of across-the-pond-ness.
Working our way up the food chain a bit comes the Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme “International” (so many flags!) located by ptschett. That shared its vote count with a somewhat lust-worthy Celebrity wagon brought to us by Papa Van Twee. If it was in LA, I’d go and give that one a look-see. Speaking of seeing, Lokki spotted a Buick Reatta which at one time was that company’s attempt at a European boutique coupe. Nowadays Buick’s much more interested in what the Chinese want.
Some extreme mental gymnastics were undertaken by mdharrell to justify a Lincoln Continental MKV “Cartier Edition” being Euro-centric, but I think he sold it. Kiefmo went the same route with a Chrysler Cordoba, as it had fine “Corinthian” leather. It did look pretty inviting, I’ll have to admit.
Getting a little more back on the theme, smalleyxb122 came up with another Eurosport, this one a sedan, while our winner, GTXcellent went one better and gave us a Lumina Euro Sedan—and no, its being from the ’90s doesn’t disqualify the entry. That’s not just one of the last of the Euro-Americans, it’s also, at least in my humble opinion, one of the best looking sedans of the era.
Congrats to GTXcellent, and thank you all for your continental tastes. Now, let’s get dangerous.
How about a 1990 Suzuki Samurai for $7,000? Consumer Reports thought it was dangerous enough…
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I’d love to have one of these, but $7000?!?!?!?
I could buy seven Geo Trackers for that much and weld them all into some kind of horrible limo!
SW20 MR2s are still affordable, they’ve got a reputation as a widowmaker, but that’s sort of what happens when a car that requires a small amount of knowledge of mid engine weight transfer becomes very cheap. This one have been deposited in a hedge already.
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https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-mr2-1996/14660125
Samurais seem to be quite expensive for what they are. Here’s an ’87 listed at $5000 with a Craiglist-tastic photo.
https://images.craigslist.org/00y0y_3cKSgfzQiUg_600x450.jpg
https://eauclaire.craigslist.org/cto/6137949808.html
It appears that Ford Pinto prices are exploding. I’d rock this nevertheless…
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https://cincinnati.craigslist.org/cto/6133492735.html
It appears that Ford Pinto prices are exploding. I’d rock this nevertheless…
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https://cincinnati.craigslist.org/cto/6133492735.html
I’ve always carried a torch for them.
not sure if comment is unintentional pun, or genuine pinto appreciation..
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They have had quite an impact on me.
Expect to get flamed Tiberiuswise….
I’ll defend it all day long. Or until I get a little hoarse.
I meant by the car…
Pintos always had a bit of flare about them.
Ah yes, I remember that. Saw it in the theatre. An old friend (RIP) was a big Zucker brothers fan.
Considered so dangerous they were legislated out of existence.
Too bad it’s only a Tri-Moto 125, and not a Tri-Moto Z, but still, it’s in niiiiice shape and only $1000.
https://images.craigslist.org/00F0F_8q1RoS3To03_600x450.jpg
https://bemidji.craigslist.org/snw/6143564323.html
What’s more intimidating than a first-gen (i.e. swing axle) Corvair? A first-gen Corvair with a primitive, on-off-switch-esque factory turbo setup, of course! This (non running) one’s available for just $2,500.
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https://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/6142115005.html
It has a dual master cylinder conversion, so it’s a little less dangerous.
At least it isn’t nose heavy.
Parked vehicles can be dangerous places. The ad states it was purchased from a police department, but neglected to clarify whether it was from the maintenance fleet or the evidence room.
https://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/cto/6145125331.html
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An Explorer from the Firestone tire debacle era… with whiskey plates.
https://fargo.craigslist.org/wan/6081481717.html
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gah. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0f347bbabc574186a5fb3562e2ca222a56ebb9b32482df12b3d8181d82c0d3cb.jpg
For those of us who are dim, what’s a Whiskey plate? DWI?
Yes.
https://www.lifesafer.com/blog/dui-scarlet-letter-license-plate/
So did the Pinto Sedan Delivery have the same gas tank issue as the regular one?
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https://atlanta.craigslist.org/wat/cto/6082732564.html
From what I remember, the issue was with the hatchbacks, and wagons had a different tank design.
No, sedan deliveries were based on the Pinto station wagon, which was excluded from the recall because of the extra body length behind the fuel tank, and because the fuel tank filler was located differently.
Besides, the “gas tank issue” you speak of was largely a fabrication of overzealous lawyers and irresponsible journalists.
http://tanshanomi.com/temp/pinto_stats.jpg
SOURCE: http://www.pointoflaw.com/articles/The_Myth_of_the_Ford_Pinto_Case.pdf
I knew that the Pinto issue was largely a fabrication, but the question was “reputation for being dangerous”, no mention of if the reputation was deserved. We can still make fun of exploding Pintos though, right?
My Mom drove my sister and I around in a Datsun 1200 in the early 70s. It’s a miracle we survived.
I don’t know about fabrication, but a local news station staged the same accident with a conversion van rear-ending a Pinto, and it immediately erupted in flames on impact. So yeah, it was quite a bit dangerous.
Now this is stuck in my head:
The safety of a fiberglass car built in a shed combined with the fire prone Fiero.
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https://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/cto/6120634472.html
UR DOIN IT RONG:
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No front brakes and a distinct possibility of breaking your arm if started improperly.
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https://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/cto/6142752781.html
My grandfather broke his brother’s nose two or three times in one go while learning to drive in a Model T on a country road. He was new at the whole driving thing which explains (he always insisted) why he ran into the bridge abutment head on. He was only going a few miles an hour so those big spring-steel bumpers did their job and the car simply bounced off and sprang backwards a few feet while smacking my great-uncle’s nose off the windshield. Then the car caught traction and moved forward -into the bridge again – smacking my great uncle’s nose into the windshield again! How many times this happened before he got the car stopped seems to depend on who was telling the story, my great uncle or my grandfather. This probably happened somewhere around 1913 or 1914 (my grandfather was born in 1901), but my great uncle was still giving my grandfather Hell about it as late as 1975…..
So here’s a vote for the Model T by my great-uncle!
I think they misremembered that episode. It was a football.
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Thanks for that. made me laugh.
Ahem.
http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=455954227&zip=76039&referrer=%2Fcars-for-sale%2Fsearchresults.xhtml%3Fzip%3D76039%26showcaseOwnerId%3D1363300%26startYear%3D1981%26sortBy%3DderivedpriceDESC%26incremental%3Dall%26firstRecord%3D0%26endYear%3D2018%26modelCodeList%3D5000%26makeCodeList%3DAUDI%26searchRadius%3D0&startYear=1981&numRecords=25&firstRecord=0&endYear=2018&modelCodeList=5000&makeCodeList=AUDI&searchRadius=0&makeCode1=AUDI&modelCode1=5000
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My dad got a 5000s cheap in the early 1990s (used) due to the whole 60 Minutes thing. The only thing it was dangerous to was the wallet. Parts were priced like Porsche parts.
I had an ’83 5000S in 1987… right after 60Min.
My car had a 1″ spacer on the brake to raise the contact plane above the throttle. If course being a kid, I took it off. One afternoon I was moving the car up the driveway and it lurched away from me. Honestly I thought my foot was on the brake.
My next car was an ’88 5000S quattro which was a manual. But the car cost $34k in 1988 money. I bought it for $8k 4 yrs later with 20k miles and a new long block.
Obligatory reference to free candy…
https://kansascity.craigslist.org/cto/6145080617.html
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Last week when you poached my Cimarron answer, I discounted it as coincidence. Now that it happened two weeks in a row, I feel like I’m being stalked.
If I see any Alfas within a hundred yards, I’m calling the cops.
If you do, I can assure you it’s not me. My Alfa is in an induced coma awaiting another heart transplant.
I do apologize about poaching – Disqus hasn’t been good about displaying images in the comments for the last several weeks. I didn’t realize yours was a creepy van post.
No worries. Great minds think alike and imitation is the sincerest form of plagiarism, and all that. Just seemed a little odd two weeks in a row+creepy van.
How about a 1400cc drag bike with a turbo and nitrous?
https://houston.craigslist.org/mcy/6102167331.html
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The owner of this Bronco II won’t even drive his grandkids in the thing.
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Maybe not so dangerous, or who knows. Mix of Beetle and old Porsche andstrange looking, design by Swiss crazyman Luigi Colani. Car is 1 of approx. 360. Price seems high, not the first ebay run. http://www.ebay.de/itm/192195359903
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Shorland Mk 3. Still for sale, still has the grenade launchers.
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https://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/cto/6064154446.html
It has all the inherent design flaws as it’s sedan counterparts, but without the crumple zones.
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Robert Bruce Emslie? If your ancestry isn’t Scottish it certainly should be with a name like that.
Oh, and just for good measure, G’day, Bruce!
https://youtu.be/eyVX3uJpqxc
I worked there for two years.
Bruce runs the press brake.
This is Bruce’s welding station.
And Bruce over there runs the roller.
Bruce, have you seen Bruce?
Louisiana was weird.
100% Scottish. I broke the chain however by marrying a girl whose ancestry is Welsh.