Fastback Friday – Inspecting a used Porsche 924

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In the Lumina Euro article, I referred to a Porsche 924 in the last paragraph. In this article, I show you the one we went to look at, a 1981 car that had been imported from Sweden in 1988. The two-three grand price range is such a wide scope, that you can practically buy anything with it. Case in point: a 32-year-old sports car from Zuffenhausen. Armed with the knowledge of two former 3rd-gen Camaro owners, we went to check it out.

So, from the alternative reality of unrealistic used-car expectations, I present you this somewhat used 924 that I’m still considering, somewhere deep inside my mind.

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For sale some 140km south from where I live, the Porsche was advertised for 2200 eur. It was said to have some cosmetic rust and a split driver’s seat, and would come with valid inspection but on winter tires. The owner also had a Citroën, which had the same bolt pattern and had decided to use both the summer tire set (on aftermarket 15″ wheels) and the stereo off the Porsche.

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When we got there, the Porsche waited us on the parking lot. It had been driven warm, so we couldn’t really tell how it started from cold. Getting to know the Bosch engine management’s possible quirks might require a cold start, but that’s nitpicking by now. My friends instantly set off inspecting the body’s condition, and at parts it was fine. At parts, eh.

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The Porsche would’ve required a certain amount of rust removal. Not all of it was surface, as the paint was bubbling from here and there and it had been shoddily, partially resprayed at some point. I wouldn’t respray it completely, but would attempt to bring it up to presentable shape.

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I made sure to see the battery tray was rust free, as I had contacted a couple 924 wizards and I was told the battery tray rust would be a complete pain to repair. The rear valances weren’t rusty either, but the wheelarches and the rockers had a significant amount of stuff I’d need to fix. The brake parts were also very rusty, possibly due to prolonged storage at one point. The car had had a patch repaired in the front wheel well, and that was said to have been done properly.

In its history, the car had sat from 2000 to 2010 in dry storage, and overhauled and taken back on the road after ten years. It had received a new cambelt, a new starter, alternator, brake hoses, fuel pump, stuff like that as well as fresh liquids; but that was three years ago. Before coming to Sweden, where it had came here, it had been imported used from Germany.

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Inside, the Porsche was bearable. The seat cushion had had the vinyl separate from the cloth, and the side bolster had a large gash. Otherwise it was intact, and the dash hadn’t split except for some very minor cracks near the top vents. The headliner was OK, the windshield had fogged up from the corners but wasn’t cracked. A new one is 200.

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We started up the car and immediately become aware of a large leak in the exhaust in the middle of the car. It blew so much, it was pretty difficult to deduct whether the engine made any funny noises. It leaked from the gasket, where the new back section had been connected to the older front section, and was most likely fixable but would be a total pain on longer drives before rectified.

I had thought I would’ve been able to collect the Porsche as-is, get some summer rubber under it and head down south for a weekend twisty-road cruise with friends. That wasn’t really the case with the car, and driving it around made it obvious there was something aloof with the brakes. The parts seemed really rusty, and it felt like the rear brakes weren’t really up to their job. The transaxle also made a faint funny noise when accelerating, and that wasn’t a bonus. The clutch grabbed when the pedal was almost still in the carpet, so the car jerked and jumped when manoeuvered around.

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The final dealkiller, however, was the jammed odo. The seller claimed not to be aware of this, but during our drive not a single digit moved. That was a major bummer, since the fuel gauge also acted up and not being able to measure any distances would mean I would eventually end up stranded. No history followed with the car, so the static reading was rendered purely hypothetical. I had thought the car would most likely have been driven 198 000 km, but it could be more. Again, with a 1981 car it might be not the most pressing issue, but every cheap old car I’ve bought has had history and a working cluster.

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My thoughts, as we were getting ready to leave, was that I would still definitely want a 924. I would just need a better starting point, even if this would probably be a good starter for someone else. For 4k, I could get a clean 924S, which would definitely feel snappier and somehow better justify the purchase. It’s fairly ridiculous for me to expect a 2000 euro 924 to be flawless, and I didn’t; however, I had prepared for the surface rust and expected the rest of the car just work a little bit better, since it had had a lot of stuff replaced some time ago. I just ended up seeing a sea of stuff needed to be fixed, instead of a summertime car that I would be able to enjoy. It’s a bit funny, that I definitely enjoyed the Lumina more.

Like I said, I’m still considering this white one. It’s cheap, even if not cheap-cheap like I wanted it to be, as I offered 1500 to the seller. Just how hard would it be to get it feel just right?

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17 responses to “Fastback Friday – Inspecting a used Porsche 924”

  1. Preludacris Avatar
    Preludacris

    It's lucky for me I usually forget how cheap you can get terrible old sports cars. Now I went and typed in Porsche on Craigslist, and I found this wonderfully bad 944 for just $1500. Man, it's a good thing I don't have a place to park it!
    http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/pml/cto/3805374
    <img src="http://images.craigslist.org/3I83J33Nc5Na5Ga5Edd5ebb661c44315513fd.jpg&quot; width="600">

    1. Rover1 Avatar
      Rover1

      You could park it on the road. It's not like anyone would try to steal it ! (Would they? )

    2. Van_Sarockin Avatar
      Van_Sarockin

      Is the windshield in or out of the car?

    3. FuzzyPlushroom Avatar
      FuzzyPlushroom

      "…sounds like a big deal, and you CAN spends thousands…"
      That's not just the suspension, guy.

  2. nanoop Avatar
    nanoop

    The odometer not working doesn't matter, as it's five digits only. If one could proof that it's less than 100k, the price (and general state) would be different. 200k, 300k, 400k who knows? First engine? Split seats are common, they do that after, say, 150k, but are these the first seats?
    Whine from the transaxle/gear is ok, these things last quite a bit. I'm not sure if it came with a 10cm bottom -"I can't see any rust" -matte black stripe right from Ingolstadt… 80ies models shouldn't rust like that.
    Buying such a car may be cheap, owning isn't – it's now a >30yo car with a transaxle, that typically experienced abuse by fourth hand owners, and is at the bottom of it's value now. I don't know for the 924 2.0, but a 944 clutch job is more than the car here….
    When everything is sorted out, it's REALLY sweet – not a drag star, but a joy on secondary roads.

  3. TurboBrick Avatar
    TurboBrick

    It's a really lovely motorcar, but look at this seat here it's all ripped up, the exhaust is buggered and the gages all knackered. That's going to be very expensive to repair. Look, I'm going to give you a 1000 euro for it right now, what do you say?

  4. frankthecat Avatar

    Exhaust might be leaking from the flex pipe if it's so equipped. I haven't come across flanges outside of the exhaust manifold leaking unless the exhaust is plugged, or things are really really rusty.
    Clutch probably needs to be bled properly. Just went through with this on my dad's motorcycle.
    Make sure the caliper slides are properly lubricated with silicone paste (sylglide or similar,) get the rotors turned if they're not past spec (replace if they are,) and throw on new brake pads (old ones are probably contaminated and hard.) Make sure the brake hoses aren't swollen or blocked either, or if the brake fluid is a funny color (green or black.)
    Oh and double check the fluid level in the transaxle. Hopefully it's just low and you don't have a ticking time bomb.

  5. Old Guy Avatar
    Old Guy

    Meh ! Spray that roach with two cans of Raid and drive a stake through its heart, Just another rusted out beater of a moneypit. Say the name slowly when opening your wallet at the parts counter, take a deep breath, then run away. Go home, hug the wife and kids, and check your Netflix queue list. You'll be a better man for it.

  6. Van_Sarockin Avatar
    Van_Sarockin

    It looks like it would be rather nice with about another thousand invested, plus a lot of your own sweat. New rotors and pads, flush the fluids, some minor bodywork and a quickie respray, sort out the gauges and odo, seat covers, and square up the exhaust. Not a big lift. And you'll have a car you can enjoy for a year or so, and sell it before something big eats you.

    1. julkinen Avatar

      Nah, I wouldn't cover the seats. The material split can be sown and the gash can probably be glued together.

      1. Manic_King Avatar
        Manic_King

        Seems that you can get running Miata in Germany for 1k EUR. Even after one way ticket and other costs like Finnish car tax + temp. plates in DE total would be less than 2,5k?

        1. julkinen Avatar

          You know, I considered trading in the BMW for an Omega of all things today. Everything goes, it seems.
          I'm going to Germany anyway in August, so if I haven't bought anything by then I'll check some out.

  7. calgoat Avatar
    calgoat

    Too many red flags there. I've seen this scenario too many times where you go to look at a car that you really want in your heart and end up having to justify a bunch of blemishes and serious flaws that you could "probably fix for cheap". It's hard to walk away from, but you don't want to purchase another man's liability. That's what that car looks like.
    As tough as it is to say and do, it's always better to spend a bit more money on a newer or better cared for car and then sort out the problems as they come up during your ownership.

  8. joshwebster84 Avatar
    joshwebster84

    Why would anyone want a 924? Just to feel the pang of regret every time you pass a cheaper, prettier, more powerful and better-built 944? Is there ANY advantage to choosing a 924 over a 944?

    1. Manic_King Avatar
      Manic_King

      Price difference and non existent availability of cheap 944s in Finland. But yeah, Antti should totally travel to Germany and buy either Miata or 944 or some other RWD sporty car.

    2. JayP2112 Avatar
      JayP2112

      In the US the late model 924S was sold along side the 944 and shared the engine. The 924 was lighter but didn't have those fender flares.

  9. JayP2112 Avatar
    JayP2112

    Make it a Martini Edition and you'll never regret your purchase.
    <img src="http://maxinatory.ru/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Porsche-924-Martini-Edition.jpg&quot; width="400">