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American Cars Living and Dying in Poland (part 2)

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Zlomnik.pl is a Polish website dedicated to old and not-so-old, interesting and not-so-interesting, cars from the last thirty years of the twentieth century, give or take a few years. Its readers send in pictures of various cars they see around the country for a weekly, give or take a few days, “miks” (mix) post.

While zlomnik.pl completely mixes all of cars together, I like to divide them by their countries of origin. To make things more interesting, seeing as all the cars post are post-war models, I have divided them up into two major groups; Axis Powers and the Allied Powers In the past we have seen Japanese and Italian cars that are living and dying in Poland. We then attacked the German cars by splitting them into the post-war configuration of West Germany and East Germany.

Today we look at the first of the Allied Forces, which also happens to be the last to get involved in the conflict, the United States. American cars have been mostly absent from the streets of Poland until the early 1990’s when their importation became popular due to the low cost and abundance of used cars in the United States. The most fascinating thing about these cars is the random selection of makes and models. One would think that fuel efficient, or reliable, or large status cars would be the most popular, but no.

Yes, we have looked at American cars in Poland before, but this is an all new post, and with all new pictures. Big thanks to Zlomnik.pl and all its readers.

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I rented one of those in 2001; what a horribly, almost scary, handling vehicle. Awful interior, too. Notice the lights.

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In the mid 90′s, while in high school, I used to work at a little radio store doing automotive installations. One day, a weird-ish middle-aged guy in a very cheap suit came in with a newly purchased super mint late 80′s one of these (I assumed he just landed some kind of a traveling sales job). He wanted a CD player installed, which meant a new single DIN radio in place of the factory DIN-and-a-half radio. Fine, no big deal… Until I realized that this installation would require the removal of more than forty torx (I think) screws! And half the dash.

That sucked. I had about ten screws left over when I was done and no idea where to screw them into. To make things worse he had to come back the next day because I wired the illumination wire wrong, oops. When he left the second time I had about fifteen screws in my hand. The dash felt solid though, or as solid as late 80′s GM car could be.

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Euro plates come either as a long rectangle or double-stacked into a square, neither of which fits into the oddly-shaped, compared to the rest of the world), North American space.

Who’s Zeb? Zeb’s dead, baby.

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Look at the way it takes that corner, it’s almost majestic… must be going at least 10mph. 10/10, would LeMons.

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Question: was this Saturn such an amazing vehicle that you would pay at least half its worth to ship across the world?

“Krysia, I imported for us the newest car from the newest American car company – it’s the future!”

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Europe had its own Ford Escort, so why would anyone ship an American one?

I’d also say that the Euro escorts were much better than the American escorts. Same goes for the Fords.

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“I imported myself a Cadillac!!! Check it out, Zbyszek!”

“Why does it look like my cousin’s Opel?”

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There you go, that’s a proper American car to import into Eastern Europe. But why is it dying like this? Lack of proper standard tools?

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“Jacek, but it’s a two-door sedan, it’s completely pointless!!”

“Nie, Grzegorz, this is the fast one, it has black trim and a spoiler!”

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To be fair, I don’t think European Ford offered a two-door sedan, so importing these POSs could have made some marketing sense.

No, it didn’t.

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“Zbyszek, Mitsubishis are crap, that’s why I imported myself an Eagle!”

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“With our newly found freedom I found individuality, too, and I didn’t want to be like everyone else, driving a Suzuki”

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Europe did not have many full-frame vans that also worked well as comfortable family vehicles, so I see the appeal in those.

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It’s parked in a specially fenced off part of urban parking lot, to protect it from thieves.

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There you go, this guy was doing it right! The trunk could swallow up two Fiat 126s.

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‘Murika! Kurwa Jea!

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Importing a mint Pinto must have been done as joke or on a dare. Ran when parked. Nice face pixelation. Nice Scoobie!

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Connoisseur of ’91-’95 Chrysler minivans, which is completely understandable. 

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I used to have a Matchbox of one of these when I was a kid, and had no idea what that ugly thing was. Yellow plates means that it’s registered as antique.

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One thing Europe did have was cool wagons, so why bring this over? Well, it was cool/futuristic-looking when it was new, it was American, it was bigger than most Euro wagons, and had a third row folding seat.

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These were sold in Western Europe too, and this looks to be one of those. They were available with a diesel engine (not sure which) and a manual transmission.

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Until I was seven years old I had no idea what a Camaro was. I got a model kit of this generation Camaro and instantly fell in love. It was so unlike anything I ever saw in Europe, a large sports car! The bumper grill design was so different than the typical grill-above-the-bumper, and it had blinkers on the inside of the headlights!! Insanity!

I instantly fell out love when I saw one up close.

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Limo driver was a popular occupation for Polish immigrants in America; my step father did it. It only makes sense that some of them realized the business potential of stretch limos in Europe, where such cars were only seen in movies. This looks like a parts car.

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Connoisseur of ’89-’97 Thunderbirds. I liked those a lot, wanted to buy one. With a slick BMW 6-esque shape, good power, independent rear suspension, BMW-esque interior, these were the most Euro cars American Ford offered.

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I can see the appeal of affordable small truck-based SUVs. I am surprised that more small pickups were not sent over, perhaps because other small Euro vehicles were simply more functional. The appeal of pickup trucks is somewhat lost on me even these days.

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I did not understand these at all. How did anyone at Ford thought that this would be a good idea? I think they sold like forty total.

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Deuce and a half? I am not sure. How did get there, into a government organization? Perhaps it was donated? Left over from war?

Bottom of the pic, Peugeot wagon. I think. And a Passat. I think.

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There were a lot of U.S. military vehicles left over from WW2 and restored… but this looks to be a later model. Now that I look at it, it may not even be a U.S. Jeep.

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In addition to taillights being a colors from blinkers, some lights, such as reverse and rear fog-lights, had to be mounted a specific distance from the road surface. There are a bunch of regulations like that in Poland, and surprisingly most people very aware of them. When I have friends or family visit me in U.S. they always question weird things that are completely normal to me, such as the fact that you don’t need a special license to drive a bus-sized RV.

Note the Euro trailer hitch. I think you can get one on a Land Rover in U.S. Lately US-style hitches are gaining popularity in Europe because they allow the use of bike rack and other such accessories. Relating to the above and specific regulations, each such hitch attachment I saw, being it a bike rack or a cargo tray, had taillights on it and the license plates moved to it, probably because both had to be at the extremes of the vehicle.

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I don’t think this is Poland, but it’s a great picture so I included it.

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This must have been so intimidating to the ton of small cars on the roads.

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“Pontiac make amazing sport sedans, that’s why I imported this”

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I would park this in my garage, next to my 2005 Thunderbird.

No, no I wouldn’t… but there is something appealing about this.

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One of the worst Mustangs ever, in mint condition, with historic plates. Don’t matter, own a Mustang. ‘Murika!

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Is that a supercharged badge? If so, I need a transmission from it for my Regal.

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I believe the headlight covers were disabled or even removed because of these very specific Euro regulations. If you think U.S. DOT is strict/weird, you wrong… we have it easy.

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This looks to be a Middle East import as I have never seen these vans equipped similarly in U.S., but do see them on news casts from the Middle East with those bars and lights.

Nice VW!

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I think that’s a camper shell in the back of that Zuk.

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Another U.S. spec two-door sedan. Who wouldn’t want a two-door Cary that’s identical to the sedan? I’m disappointed that they stopped making these.

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Tak, kurwa, ‘Murika!!

(headlight flappers looked to be removed… damn communists!!)

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G G G Geo!!!

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“Oh honey, Zbyszek, I love that Buick, it’s ssoooo ‘murikan!! Please, let’s import that! Just think how impressed everyone at church will be”

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Funny thing happened… when I was first exposed to the classic American van I though that they were inefficient in terms of space layout; big on the outside and small on the inside. I wondered why Ford wouldn’t import the amazingly popular Transit which would likely kick Econoline’s ass. Well, now they are. And now I feel a bit nostalgic about the classic American van. We used to have a ’91 Dodge Conversion van when I was a kid… loved that thing.

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I liked this slightly more rounded/update Grand Marquis. Family friend had one, I want to say that it was an ’88 or ’89. We drove it from NYC to Niagara Falls; six people and truck full of stuff… MB S-class had nothing on this.

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Furious, not fast. T-tops, another thing Europe did not have. Gawd I miss t-tops. We have now have coupe, we have roadsters, and we have convertibles? Why can’t we have effing t-tops!??!?!

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Special delivery for Zach Bowman.

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Baruth says that dealers couldn’t unload these things.

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I always thought the Astros were great; foot print of a car, frame of a truck, capacity of a full-size van, and available AWD. They sold well, too, I think. No wonder GM killed them.

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The forward-control truck is a Polish FSC Star truck. Like most Polish state-owned companies, it was bought out by a western company once communism fell, MAN is this case. They should have kept the name… MAN STAR!

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OEM replacement soft top.

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This is amazing… a U.S.-spec Peugeot, with California plates… in Poland!!!

This man’s answer to “what would be your ideal vehicle to drive around the world?” was “Peugeot 405, of course!!”

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Connoisseur of large American ko-oo-pe-s.

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‘Murika, tak kurwa!!

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“Honey, I know Zbyszek got that Buick for his wife you saw at church, but really, this is better! Pontiac is known for its sport cars and only old people drive Buicks, trust me!”

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Side pipes!!! I can’t believe they didn’t forced these to be removed. Remember when the Dodge Viper was first sold on European soil? The side pipes were gone… but leg burns remained.

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When I was first exposed to U.S. spec car I did find it odd that one bulb was used as a taillight, brake light, and a blinker. That’s a lot of eggs in one basket.

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Two for the price of one! Must be an American car connoisseur.

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Well, that’s unexpected. I love how it’s casually parallel parked on the street.

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Pontiac made amazing mid-engine sport cars and this connoisseur knows it.

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Daimer-Chryler

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“Marcin, this is so much better than Jacek’s car, it’s a beauty!… look at those sexy lines….ohh, and it’s the Sport version, must be fast… nice!!!”

- No one ever

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Skoda Yeti!

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“No honey, I did not buy an Opel! It’s a Pontiac, a superb sports sedan… just look at the name, LeMons LeMans!

Has anyone ran a Pontiac LeMans in LeMons yet? Seems like the most obvious choice.

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Dafaq are those headlights? Dafaq are those wheels? And the square plate in front, why?

The black plates means it was registered before European Union regulations, back then each country had different color license plates. Or before Poland was part of EU, not sure.

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What is that thing next to the gas filler? Natural gas filler? Those conversions are popular there.

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Dying, if not already dead.

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Hey Lincoln, take the existing Mustang Chassis, add a few inches, make it pretty, and bring Lincoln back! Just don’t call it MKC.

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That’s not a wagon, that’s a wagon!!

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Another connoisseur. Obviously the Pontiac is faster than the other two.

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I’m willing to bet that the current owner has no clue what the flag signifies.

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My driver’s ed car was a POS just like this.

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“Yes, Ivonka, I imported the Mercury because it’s the upscale Ford, much nicer all around, more powerful too… and I got a proper sedan, not one of those two-door discount sedans like Jacek”

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Pontiac built Excitement!

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“Wanda, I imported a proper sports sedan, a Pontiac…”

 

Currently there are "66 comments" on this Article:

  1. stickmanonymous says:

    Poland's not a very sunny place, is it?

    • CoastieLenn says:

      To me, every time I see a picture of anything Polish, Russian, etc.- All I see is grey, gloom, and DIRTY ass cars. Does nobody bother to clean thier vehicles there? Is there a regulation in the EU about not washing cars?

      • Kamil_K says:

        Summer weather is really nice. The gray is because that was the favorite color of communists… the cities are quite nice and modern, the country side has so way to go.

        Regarding dirty cars… you're looking at old and cheap cars here. Much like in the rest of the world, people who own old and cheap cars don't really care about them.

  2. Carter says:

    I need to start reading zlomnik so I can learn the language of my people.

  3. mr smee says:

    I had no idea. It's like some weird cult. Love the yellow Mercury Marquis, just the right amounts of decadence and decay. The 67 Mustang would be my ex-pat express were I to move to EU.

  4. Eric Rood says:

    I LOL'd at the confederate flag. Brilliant, that, and the whole post.

    LeMons had its first Pontiac LeMans last weekend, but it was a late-70s RWD version. I don't believe there has been a FWD example yet.

  5. PushrodRWD says:

    Great picks.
    Mavericks can turn, ask the brazilians. They are the Ford version Vega/Monza, with a little effort you can make them nice cars. Also one of the cars behind the Polonez is another Maverick.
    <img src="http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2ktrjwFdS1qanlclo1_1280.jpg"&gt;

    The last FWD Rivieras had 3.8L Supercharged engines. I think the Regal from that time period had the same option. Depending on your Regal the transmission may not bolt up. On the other hand the entire driveline may swap in. The seats in the Riv are comfortable.

  6. Sjalabais says:

    Great comments! But looking at most cars condition…who drives American in Poland? And how is the import taxation working? In Norway, importing a newish American is forbiddingly expensive. I once did a quick calculation of importing a Ford Flex, which, brand new, qualifies for 300,000+ $ of import tax. Sadly, this is not a joke.

    The very first pic looks like a good candidate for a new Christine, as discussed recently.

  7. Pockets says:

    "This is amazing… a U.S.-spec Peugeot, with California plates… in Poland!!"

    This is probably explained by it being an Mi16. They're pretty rare these days, they've all been taken apart for people to put the engines into 205 GTIs.

    Also, no T-Tops? There were loads of options back in the day if you wanted removable panels albeit mostly without the bar.

  8. the_priceman141 says:

    Nice to see Hooniverse adopting the generic Jalopnik article template.

    Get some pictures of some old beat down American cars that were bought because they were the cheapest the Europeans could find, and caption every photo with "MURICA!" and you then have instant page-filler!

    But in all seriousness, it is both sad an pointless to note the sorry condition of many of these cars. Replacement parts for many of these older models are probably not even available in the US anymore, nevermind Eastern Europe.

    The old Mustang, the pacer, and the Maverick seemed to be in good shape, though (at least in the pictures). The Pinto's body didn't look bad, either.

    Some of these cars were probably in a condition of neglect before they were brought over.

    It was interesting to see the G8 and the newer Thunderbird, though. I'm really not sure why everyone seems to hate those T-birds so much.

    • Carter says:

      The Thunderbird sucks because it looks like a Dodge Neon, a Volkswagen New Beetle Convertible, and a Lincoln Towncar had a painfully boring threesome.

      • Zaxbys says:

        I thought the retro-birds sucked because they had no passenger capacity, mediocre luggage space, a floppy chassis, and a 60k price tag for a Ford.

    • Kamil_K says:

      I fail to how this is like anything I've seen on Jalopnik… but fine.
      Thanks for reading.

      • the_priceman141 says:

        I do apologize if my comment seemed a big harsh, I had no intention of offending you. If I did, I truly am sorry.

        One of the more saddening trends I've observed within the collective automotive online community in recent years is the almost total unwillingness to acknowledge anything that would contradict the notions that 'all american cars are horrible and they handle bad and they're only good in a straight line and they all such in general' and so on, with the main contributors being certain websites (such as Jalopnik – sometimes but not always) and television programs, such as TopGear.

        I do like virtually all of the articles I've read on Hooniverse. As an American car enthusiast (as well as many other cars), I'm used to seeing articles on websites that say "all American cars are bad except for a few," so when I saw articles on Hooniverse in which the author(s) had shown interest in big old American station wagons and pickup trucks and even brougham cars, while also showing interest in Asian and European cars at the same time, it was somewhat of a relief to see something in such contradiction to the narrow-minded views of most websites that "only small sportscars are good" (even though I'm not exactly a brougham enthusiast… (but I don't hate them either)).

        This is why I was somewhat surprised to see this article on Hooniverse, which seemed to more closely mirror what I've become used to seeing on other websites – just "beating the dead horse" that there have been SOME cars to come from the US that are considered to be undesirable by most, as if there are none from Europe or Asia.

        Again, if I offended you, I am sorry.

        • Rust-MyEnemy says:

          No worries. Hey, you should try my articles. They're terrible!

        • Alff says:

          I think the point is not that American cars are bad but that many of these are unlikely choices for one-off importation half way around the world. However, I suspect that Eastern Europeans might be equally dismayed by our collective affection for things like Ladas.

        • andy says:

          i dont see any bashing on american cars, i mean most cars are 20-30 year old "not really special" examples of american motor industry.. it like trying to find something nice to say about a 1984 passat.. on the other hand a similar to the passat, skoda "insert model" on the other side of the atlantic (not really possible due to laws) what be a different story. and lets not forget half of the featured cars have a twin brother on the other continent. beating on the pontiac is also discrediting the opel cadett and the asian deawoo lemans

        • Kamil_K says:

          Sorry for the late response, been busy.
          No problem, I've got thick skin.

          It sounds like you haven't been reading enough of this site here. We never really bash anything. All of us here own all kinds of cars, and those include a cool Falcon and a Grand Wagoneer, if you want to talk American cars. I myself have owned a number of American cars, Jeeps mostly, and drive them regularly at my day job. And like you've mentioned, Jim, our weekend editor, has a serious hard-on for mid-century longroofs.

          I'd like to think we're honest about everything we write here. All of us are enthusiasts, and while everyone has his/her own biases and preferences, we're not going to beat up on some poor car for no reason…. we'll justify our reason for calling something a POS.

          In the above article I talk about twenty year old Tempos and Aerostars, '88 Oldsmobile 88, and others… and frankly, with the exception of the Aerostar, these were crap when they were new. Read again, I said many good and honest things about a lot of these cars. And keep in mind that these are all random cars. Go read the articles about German, Italian, and Japanese cars too…. they're all written in the same way.

          Peace and love…

    • PushrodRWD says:

      You can get parts for most of the cars in the US. It depends on the type of part. Parts to keep them running should be easy to get. Body/trim parts can be a pain.

      The T-Bird was not as bad as folks make it out to be. It was an early attempt at retro that should have been better, especially the nose. The seats were comfortable they did an OK job from the back. It would have been nice to have a bit more thunder though.

      • Carter says:

        That's really the biggest problem with the Thunderbird. Like many of the iterations that preceeded it, especially the malaise ones, there really isn't much going on with them. This Thunderbird could have changed that. It failed miserably if it was even trying at all.

  9. nanoop says:

    The joke with the american car in the foreground and the comment designating something in the background is great!

    So what's in front of the Yeti? I'm European, so I could spot the difference between a late Skoda Octavia and an early Superb, but no clue with 'murican m'zzle…

    edit: hoping between all these european languages ruined my spelling..

  10. duurtlang_ says:

    I'd like to add that the Chrysler and Pontiac minivans, the Aerostar (not sure), the Mercury Sable/Taurus wagon (watch the size of the plate holder), Chevy (?) Ambulance, Sebring convertible, the Jeep and the Corsica were all available new in Europe. Offered by the manufacturers themselves. Other than the Chrysler minivans in the 90s none were hits, although you did see the occasional Pontiac minivan, Jeep or Corsica.

    The gas filler next to the original gas filler is for LPG gas. It's somewhat similar to natural gas, other than LPG being a petroleum product. I've got it on my daily driver as well. Where I live gasoline is $8.50 a gallon (US), LPG about $3.40 a gallon (US). You do need about 15-20% more of the stuff, so it's like the equivalent of $4.00 gasoline. It saves me a huge chunk of money, with the equivalent of a mere $4 a gallon (US) fuel seems almost free to me.

    Oh, and you can fit bicycle racks on a Euro hitch just fine. Moreover, many cars are equipped with such a hitch because they want to use a bicycle rack, not for towing.

  11. david42 says:

    Inspiring to see that people love those cars enough (even the Tempos!) to keep them running so far from home.

    Why doesn't the 2nd Riviera have orange turn signals?

  12. Slow_Joe_Crow says:

    I can help out with the military vehicles. The red 6×6 is a WWII vintage Dodge Weapons Carrier, which makes it a 1 1/2 ton rather than 2 1/2, and may have been ooriginally supplied to Russia under Lend/Lease. The "Jeep" is a Vietnam War era M151 MUTT made by AM General and the big roll cage was added due to their tendency to flip over easily, this is also why the Humvee that replaced it is so wide.
    The little red pickup looks like a Mazda B Series, which makes it Japanese, although it may have started with a Ford badge since they were sold as the Ford Courier in Europe and Asia.

    • FuzzyPlushroom says:

      By 'little red pickup', do you mean the S-10 Blazer (beside the W123 and E34)?

      • Slow_Joe_Crow says:

        My bad, the grille and hood registered in my mind as a B2200 since I have tried my best to send the S-blazer to the memory hole.

        • FuzzyPlushroom says:

          They do look rather similar from the front. Without the roof rack or any trace of badging, I don't know that I could have told them apart.

  13. Schaefft says:

    Love the pic of the Mark VIII and Riviera, that guy truly has taste! Also love the b-bodies, great cars without a doubt.

  14. Rust-MyEnemy says:

    I have never, ever, ever, ever seen a two-door Camry before. I can't stop looking at it. It's kind of hyponotic.

    That said, it could be that I've seen millions and trillions but they're so anonymous I've not noticed them.

  15. dukeisduke says:

    Wow, just wow. The 405 looks like a 405 MI-16, which the ultimate 405 here in the States. I wonder if it's ever been driven on the 405, an California?

    a 405 on the 405

    • dead_elvis says:

      I've seen a few 405s (no clue if they were anything but garden-variety) on I-405 east of Seattle (Bellevue, Kirkland, etc).

      Always found it strange that there are two completely separate I-405s.

  16. dukeisduke says:

    And I never tire of looking at Euro taillights applied to 'Murican cars.

  17. Van_Sarockin says:

    1/4 fascinating, 1/4 shocking, 1/2 craptastic. A lot of those cars wouldn't have qualified to be stolen and taken to Mexico.

    Just for fun, I'll stand up for the T-bird. It was a nice throwback to the early sixties cruiser. Problem was, Ford priced it too high for what was essentially a piece of fashion jewelry.

    • Zaxbys says:

      Don't forget the lack of functionality too! The problem isn't so much that it was a bad car. It's just there wasn't too much about it that was great…

  18. RyanM says:

    RE: The Peugeot with California plates… I used to see the same US-Spec 90's Toyota Corolla wagon with New Jersey plates in downtown Kabul (Afghanistan) daily. Upon closer inspection (CARFAX'd the VIN) it was a theft car from the US. This used to happen often in Eastern Europe too. Last time I was in Moldova I saw perhaps a dozen Toyotas with east-coast US plates driving around with long-since expired registration stickers. With one (awesome) exception, they were all stolen cars.

    The aforementioned "awesome" exception was an independent punk band from Kansas touring Europe in a beat up 4×4 Toyota Master Ace wearing German "tourist" license plates sheet-metal screwed into the bumper next to their still-valid Kansas registration.

    • Kamil_K says:

      That may have happened in the 1990s, but currently Poland is full of bureaucracy and strict law enforcement and that kind of crap doesn't fly anymore.
      That said, I am confident that it still happens in other eastern European countries which are still coming out of the oppression.

  19. Importamation says:

    With a few exceptions (the Roadmaster wagon, the '59 Cadillac, the old Mustang), those are some real sorry cars that would be a hard sell at a USA used car lot. I guess they got exported because they would sell for more money in Poland than here? I can see why people in other parts of the world have a dim view of American cars if a Cavalier or Corsica or one of the "Dustbuster" GM minivans is what they base their impressions on. We don't like them either.

  20. scoudude says:

    The Aerostar, and the Astro are unibody vehicles.

    • Kamil_K says:

      Are you sure? If so, perhaps they're some kind of hybrid set up with beefy sub-frames?
      I was pretty sure the Aerostar had a variation of the Ford Ranger frame, and the Astro was S-10 based. But I could be wrong… I worked a few of them.

      • Age_of_Aerostar says:

        They did have beefed up sub frames, but i found a good description from http://www.cars-directory.net, regarding the Aerostar: "This design was developed because the designers in Ford's truck office were unfamiliar and uncomfortable with unibody construction, and essentially designed the frame rails into the Aerostar's unibody (this construction was also used on the Chevrolet/GMC G-Series vans, the second generation Jeep Cherokee), and today's Honda Ridgeline pickup."

  21. dead_elvis says:

    Kamil, given your befuddlement at the appeal of pickup trucks, I'm surprised you find anything at all of interest in that Chevy SSR. That's about as useless as a truck gets (as long as we're talking about stock vehicles – brodozers are a whole 'nother, mouth-breathing story).

  22. C³-Cool Cadillac Cat says:

    The trunks of the Mercury Marquis/Town Car/Crown Victoria (Panther chassis, the 'smaller' ones, post-1977) are three dead-hooker trunks.

    "Dead hooker" is a default US trunk space measurement.

    That '76 Town car, though…the white one…that has a 7 dead hooker trunk…at least!

    I can't imagine having to feed the 460 CID (7.5L) malaise V8 in that beast.

    Honestly, I'm rather surprised at what made it over there. A Cadillac Catera?! Really?

    The land yachts I understand, but some of the others…

    As an aside, it's humorous to we Americans what Europeans think of as large automobiles.

    All of these are pretty normal, save for the one 70's Town Cow.

    MOO!

  23. mseoul says:

    Amazing pics. Are those amber turn signals built into those original looking Maverick taillights?

    I can't imagine how bad and dangerous most US car headlights would be on dark countryside Polish roads. Look at the brown glazed units on that Tempo!

  24. mseoul says:

    P.S. Kurwa great comments Kamil. Very well done!

  25. mseoul says:

    No! You can't compare the quads on a 125 to a US car with brown glaze. A 125 really is really not that bad. Glass lights. halogen, etc. Now, a Wartburg could be different, not to mention a Syrena with two primitive round ones. Even the glass rectangulars on a 127p are not bad and can't be compared with a Tempo!

  26. Pedala says:

    Yearly Car tax must be pretty low in Poland. In Romania almost all old american and european cars (newer than 30 years) with big engines are long gone.
    Above 3000cc the yearly car tax is 0.33 euro / cc. That means that for a car with a 3000cc engine you pay ~1000euro per year. For 6000cc 2000euro per year.

    Historic vehicles have a considerable discount.

  27. fred Gasmer / USA says:

    As for the Suburban with the flag….. you would need a tow-truck long before you needed a snorkel! :)

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