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Two Wheel Tuesday: Cleveland CycleWerks: Rolling Two Wheeled Artwork at Starter Bike Prices

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Cleveland CycleWerks Tha Heist

 Very low MSRP, unique styling, and a name nobody knows or will question. Sounds like a pretty decent formula for a motorcycle to us.

Cleveland Cycle Werks has been around for several years now to fill an interesting niche in the marketplace: that of style over substance. Cleveland offers inexpensive Chinese built motorcycles whose design is first-and-foremost the reason you are shopping for them. Starting at only $3195 these are rolling pieces of artwork. Now let us take a look under the bodywork to find more to this mystery.

[Images: ClevelandCycleWerks.com]

Cleveland CycleWerks Tha Ace

Powered by a 250cc engine this motorcycle won’t be a barn burner by any stretch of the imagination. If speed is what you are looking for in a cruiser then you will have to look elsewhere. The Japanese manufacturers will be more then willing to help you out with that need. Those bikes cost more too, but  have more derivative styling and it will likely be more reliable.

Cleveland CycleWerks Tha Misfit

As time goes on CCW may show the reliability the company is hoping for. They promise to be more involved with quality control with their bikes than most other manufacturers in this price range but only time will tell. Take a moment and just let your eyes drape themselves over the Ace and Misfit. Even with speeds limited to the low end of what you want to do on the highway does it matter? More likely this will be the bike you just pull out of the garage for a short cruise back and forth through town.

Cleveland CycleWerks The Hooligun


  • Irishzombieman

    Gotta say that the styling of the first three is pretty danged nice, the third one in particular. I'd enjoy riding any one of those.
    Right after I scraped the "tha" stickers off.

    • topdeadcentre

      Yep. "Tha" = model name fail

    • fodder650

      Yeah I'm not a big fan of that. I'm not sure why they bothered considering that the bikes design sells the bike not some silly catch phrase

      • Irishzombieman

        The more I look at these the better I think they look. Between that and the excellent picture art they've got someone who really knows what they're doing, who'll maybe dump the silly stuff sometime soon.

        Very curious as to their fit/finish/mechanical quality. They look fantastic. I hope they perform well and hold up to use. I'm not going to Sacramento any time soon, but when I do, I'll try check them out.

        • pj134

          Check out the articles below too.

  • acarr260

    Would these be comfortable for larger (taller) guys? I'm a hair over 6'3", and when I looked at touring bikes from the Japanese manufacturers, I had to look at the biggest bikes just to fit on them comfortably. I really like the looks of their bikes. Would they be a good starter bike?

    • Number_Six

      They'd be good starter bikes because they're light, uncomplicated, relatively underpowered, and if you want to learn to wrench on them, the guts are right there for you to see. However, only the Hooligun would likely be suitable for the height-enabled because of its taller seat height. If you're too big you look like you're doing violence on a wee bike, but if you only want to ride around town they ought to be fine.

      • acarr260

        That's what I didn't want to hear. I like the bikes other than the dual sport Hooligun. I can buy a nice used dual sport for that much (with more power), but I like the looks of the first three.

        • fodder650

          Like Number Six says it's a matter of inseam more then straight up height. What you end up doing at your height is moving to a more forward control to get around the height. You can see this on any tall Harley riders bikes

  • These bikes will hopefully bring new riders in, without being tremendously over their heads and riding abilities.

    • fodder650

      Isn't that the best part of a 250? It has the power to put you on the highway but not enough to kill you. Well not without trying at least

  • omg_grip

    Damn. Well I am going to have to look real close at these when it comes time to get a bike. I really like how they look, read a few reviews and am not put off by the "made in china" bits. Everythings made in china anymore

    • "Everything" may be made in China – major manufacturers are doing so – but you're going to see better tolerances & reliability from stuff that doesn't originate there. Case in point – Honda Cub/Passport clones made in China are much higher quality than MIC stuff like the Schwinn-branded scooters. Shop carefully. Lightly used scoots & sub-600cc motorcycles from the Big 4 Japanese brands are typically a much better value for the new rider, especially if you're not stoked to be turning a wrench on a regular basis.

  • danleym

    I really like the looks, and I really like the price, but just about everything else makes me shy away. Chinese construction? Top speed of 75 mph? 14 hp (honestly I've never ridden before, and I don't know the norm here, but that seems really low)? Company I've never heard of before, likely with limited support or aftermarket? Trusting my life with that company's assurance that this bike will not fall apart underneath me while I'm closing in on that top speed?

    I'd like to have a bike, I've always wanted one, and I've come close to buying one before (then I get to thinking too much and talk myself out of it). And even though a brand new one is likely to be a lot more reliable than one off craigslist, I still don't think I'd start here.

    That said, now I'm off to craigslist to see if I can't find that bike bargain that will make me finally buy one…

    • acarr260

      I also went off to craigslist after leaving my comment. I can't decide if I'm glad or not… this one would be a fun cruiser bike, but not for long distances…

      • fodder650

        I've seen several bobbers like that popping up around the country. Someone must have put plans out for it. Of course, like you said, it's not a long distance bike. Heck I dont think it would commute easily.

        What are you looking or in a first motorcycle?

      • Bryan

        Guy just rode his HEIST from Jersey to Daytona for bike week and is on his way back. He's made some mods and gets about 80-85 on his bike but it definately stands up to the long distances.

    • topdeadcentre

      For certain kinds of riding, these bikes look great.

      Light weight and not overpowered means that new riders will have a great time. People who have been riding big bikes are also often amazed how much fun the 250cc bikes are — you can twist the grip all the way without killing yourself. For regular highway riding, 75mph is as fast as you need to go to keep up with traffic. For city riding, bikes in this class are easier to park, easier to maneuver at parking-lot speeds, and will may even get passed over by motorcycle thieves in search of big expensive bikes.

      I'd consider one for commuting, it would get nearly as good MPG as a scooter without being a scooter.

      The engine being of Chinese make is a possible problem, but it depends on the quality of parts and design ordered from the factory. But these engines should be pretty easy to get to, get into and work on, so for people who turn their own wrenches, shouldn't be too much of a problem over time.

    • Fester812

      Go sit on one and look at the showroom floor. Then on your way home, do 75mph in your car and open the door and look at the pavement flying past. Now imagine the only thing keeping you from sliding across that pavement is that 250lbs of metal you were sitting on a few minutes ago.

      Speed is much more subjective on a motorcycle than it is in a car. 75mph wind without a wind-tunnel developed fairing blocking feels really fast. The person in the car behind you on the freeway may not feel the same way.

      250cc is bare minimum for freeway use by law in many places. You probably wouldn't want to ride one of these on the freeway. 14hp on a 500lb GVW is like 60hp 2000lb GVW. Like a Ford Festiva. It might technically be able to sustain freeway speeds, but it's not only the HP that makes it not something you'd want to travel very far on. And it's probably more than adequate for a commuter.

      • danleym

        I get that, completely. But my thought is that if 75 is the top speed, it's really going to be straining at 65. And no, it may not be the bike of choice for a long trip, but where I live, to go anywhere you get on the interstate. If I wanted to get to any fun roads, there's going to be interstate driving to get there. I drive 10 miles to work. Less than 1 of that is off the interstate, and if I'm straining to keep 60 or 65 during my commute, that's going to be more dangerous than going a little faster. For me, the ability to safely get on the interstate would be a must for any bike. Not saying I'd be there for real long, but it wouldn't be worth buying if I couldn't.

        • mnm4ever

          Thats easy… then this isnt the bike for you. These are city bikes, not cruisers, think scooter but cooler looking.

          Where I live is right in town, I am on the coast, every road within 3 miles of my house has a speed limit under 40mph, I can get to 3 or 4 quaint downtown areas and several beach towns without ever going over 45mph or hitting anything bigger than a 2-lane road. I can hop on my bike and hit 100 different restaurants or bars (no drinking though of course!). Thats what these bikes are for, basically, the same use you would get with a small scooter but you look cooler doing it. Well, until you fire up the 250cc bike next to some Harleys… LOL

          Until I saw this post I have been considering this:

          But I kind of like these better now, already built, ready to ride…

  • Looks suspicious similar to this crap.
    <img src="http://www.motos125cc.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/Sundown-stx-motard-125.jpg"&gt;

    Buy a used Honda and be happy.

    • fodder650

      In the case of the Hoonigan I will give you that. The others though are different enough to stand out on their own. Still I question reliability. I need to look at rider reviews

  • C³-Cool Cadillac Cat

    Makes me want to hit CL for some used large dual-sport hunting…

  • Comes down to a simple problem for a market consisting of us:
    new cheap stuff is a tough sell over used good stuff

    In a way, it's cool to see bikes that are more accessible to get people into the hobby. Lots of us started with cheap snowboards, surfboards, guitars or whatever, only to grow up and move on.

    • Of course, the market of us (I'm assuming you mean hoons &/or people with grease under their nails) != the market at large. New cheap stuff seems to do quite well – IKEA, Walmart, et al probably don't see us as a prime demographic.

      A bigger factor working against Cleveland CycleWerks – the American motorcycling public has nearly abandoned small motorcycles, outside of the dualsport & dirt market. 250cc bikes are most commonly seen in MSF (Motorcycle Safety Foundation) classes, or abandoned behind garages. I can't count the number of times I've heard 600cc supersports recommended as a "great first bike", and I cringe every time.

      I'd love to see a tiered licensing system in the US for motorcycles, akin to that of England where young/new riders are limited to machines below a certain displacement & HP. Maybe more people would figure out that small bikes can be a metric shit-ton of fun, even if they're "only" 250cc or less.

      • fodder650

        Yeah even 600 is considered a womans bike isnt? Heck in Harley's case even the Sportster is considered below a beginning bike. I miss the Buell Blast

        • The Blast was better in concept than execution, IMO. Too expensive, and not much better performance than other "beginner" bikes like the little Ninja. Low-end torque was its sole advantage, unless the buyer was focused on buying American (ATK is US-built, but uses motors from Hyosung).

          • fodder650

            As an ex owner of a Suzuki GS500E it was the competition. What was needed was that motor in a cheap little cruiser but HD didn't want to hurt it's Sportster market. So they relegated it over to Buell. Who, I don't believe, were allowed to improve the motor much.
            I rode one down at the Harley factory in York, Pa not long after they came out. It wasn't bad and it wasn't good , it was a starter bike. Mind you this was after getting off a Sportster 1200 and somehow it still managed to keep my attention.

            • I'm not sure how much crossover there was between potential buyers for the 883 & the Blast. Harley guys don't seem to consider anything else, in my experience, and most of the female riders I know are either BMW die-hards (snobs, possibly) or speed freaks who have dedicated track bikes; while some of them ride Buell twins, none of them have a Blast. The female HD riders I know do so because their old men ride HDs, and it's either ride bitch or ride the brand.

              I'm a motorcyclist, not a biker. If you're on two wheels, you're good by me.

              • fodder650

                No that's the point I was making. If Harley made a 400cc version of the Sportster it would eat into the sales of the 800/1200's. So they sent the job to their sportbike manufacturer Buell so it wouldn't hurt their image

                • I don't know if it that's true, in terms of hurting sales of the existing lineup – I'm not sure HD's target would even consider anything smaller than the 883. The brand image is so tied to A/C V-twin cruisers, any deviation from that is disturbing to the faithful & the aspirational – just look at how the V-rod was received. Makes me think that HD is so confident in their hold on the market, that they feel that they don't need buyers looking for something anything smaller, lighter, or better handling.

      • Kogashiwa

        I ran out of thumbs after one otherwise would've kept going. Well said.

        I have on occasion considered downsizing from my FZ1. I could ride a Ninja 250 in hoon mode all day long and attract no attention from anyone. The FZ1 … about eight seconds?

        • fodder650

          The Ninja 250 has a 14k rev limit. Going 60mph you are at 80% of what that bike will be doing. What's more fun then wringing the life out of a vehicle? On the FZ1 you would need to be doing 120 or more before you got that same sensation

        • Thanks. I've got a Kawasaki ZRX1100, a 500cc Yamaha twin, and an old Honda C70 Passport scooter. They serve very different purposes; had I not started on a KZ200, many years ago, I might not have:
          A) realized the joys of small-displacement fun, and
          B) survived the learning curve of motorcycling.

          I can't break any speed limits on the Passport, and can only do so on the Yamaha by exceeding its braking limits. It's a hell of a lot of fun to ride it at 9/10ths, and not have to worry about my license. The ZRX? Heavy, not a ton of fun around town… but psychotic-grin-inducing, comfy for 700-mile days (and at supra-legal speeds), & since it doesn't look like a sport bike, I've managed to talk my way out of tickets thus far. Damn good thing I didn't buy it until I had been riding for a LOOONG time.

          • fodder650

            I started on a Honda 650 (hence the end of my username) but never rode it enough to get scared of it. It wasn't until i got my 93 GS500E that I learned what a small displacement, well midsize in this case, was like. I had both it and my Boulevard C50 at the same time for a while. The GS500 was a scream. It was so light and agile. It may me do silly stuff with it. It begged me to push it harder and try to go deeper into the corners. It wanted this little fat man to take the chicken strips off of it. Good times.
            Heck on the highway the bike was faster then my 800cc Boulevard. I could draft trucks easier and maneuver around them with ease. Well that's until the reality of the smaller tires brings you back to your senses and it just starts to track in anything that a truck has ever driven over.
            I miss that bike

            • Middleweights like the GS500 & 500cc Ninja are a blast, and an excellent compromise – not so twitchy to be scary for new riders, competent highway commuters, and enough power to entertain on secondary roads. The ergos suffer if you're long-legged… the Suzuki is just to compact for me to be comfortable. I've never found the feet-forward cruiser posture tolerable for more than around town, but I'm partial to heading out for long rides, & value handling.

              • fodder650

                Yeah I liked the mid controls on the Boulevard. Even someone short like me could get comfortable on long rides on it. The downside was the seat which was only good for 45 minutes before your tailbone screamed. I put a gel seat cover on top of it to get over it.

                On my Victory the floor boards are so large that I can ride it as a mid or forward control bike which is real nice. On the two 300 mile+ days I've done it allowed me to stretch and move around without pulling over.

                On the GS that UJM straight up position is unusual. You don't think of that bike as a UJM but boy is it. Your chest is in the wind and you are straight up and done. It's not a sport bike but the ergonomics were good for moderate rides before you felt it. Mostly your wrists paid the price

                • I love the upright posture on UJMs, but the GS500 has the worst ergonomics for me of just about any middleweight I've been on. Not crazy about the seat, either.

                  I wasn't sold on floorboards until I had the chance to ride a '73 Guzzi Eldorado. Insanely comfortable seating – everything seems to fall to hand quite naturally. I'd take one of those, or an Ambassador, any day over ANY metric cruiser or Harley. Italian style, tractor-like torque & simplicity – pretty hard to beat. They're surprisingly capable on twisty roads, too – you're not going to set any records on the Tail of the Dragon, but you'll have a hell of a good time beveling your floorboards & boots.

  • Fester812

    I've worked on a lot of Chinese bikes. Scooters mostly, but I've worked on a some Chinese choppers and Cub clones and ATVs.

    Most of them are so bad, if someone did buy one to get their feet wet with motorcycles, they'd be so disappointed they'd find another hobby.

    I kinda like the way the Misfit looks. Not for "starting at" $3200, I'd rather have a Honda PCX for the same price, but if the quality proved to be similar to a Taiwanese scooter, I'd consider the Misfit.

    The biggest problem I see with Chinese powersports is their electrical system. The connectors are so cheap and thin, they loose their tension just from normal use and then the bike develops intermittent electrical problems that might take an hour to track down. The aluminum castings of their controls are pretty bad too, doesn't take much to snap a brake handle off when the new owner inevitable learns why there's two different kickstands and why the easy one is not always appropriate.

    Those are the two biggest problems we encounter. Sometimes we catch the electrical bigs during PDI, sometimes a week or two after delivery to the customer they pop up. Once those are ironed out (usually by cutting the connectors out and soldering/hardwiring the controls) they're fairly reliable for another 5000-10,000 miles. Then the cheap rings loose their tension and the engine needs a top end overhaul – usually not worth it to fix.

    $3000 for something you can ride for a couple of summers isn't a bad deal.

    $3000 + a night walking a brand new bike home, paying me to pick it up, fix it, might wait a few weeks for parts… Hmm. Maybe you'd be better off with a used Honda…

    • fodder650

      That's the first time I've seen a mechanic speak up on the Chinese bikes. So thank you. I was curious as to what one would say. Any thought to the whole idea of quality control getting past that? I'm still put off by the cheap steel myself

    • Gardo

      I have more than 11000 miles on my Heist in less than a year. I must say that this is a very well built bike. I wasn't expecting what I would get for a bike 5 times the price but I was surprised that I got way more for the 3k + I paid. The support and community that has built up has been incredible over the last year.
      but most of the tha Riders i speak to havent had any issue in turnaround parts are readily available and PIT is quick to get the riders back on the road

      I road my Heist from outside Manhattan to Daytona last week 3000 mile round trip the bike ran very well and with some gearing and carb mods I was running a cruising speed of 70 -75 with a passing speed of 80 -85 and broke 90 a few times.
      I'm a 200lbs rider and was sporting about 40 – 50lbs in gear. I love this lil bike and she's done well by me.


      • Steve Barber

        Readers, pay attention to Gardo. Visit http://www.ccwthariders.com . These bikes come from the MIC mentality that seeks quality and improvement, responsiveness to consumer needs, parts sourced world wide, design and engineering in US by an American company (Cleveland CycleWerks). These are NOT GENERIC MIC bikes with a bogus American label slapped on. We are a dealer (and distributor on left coast) in business for 32+ years, and have close "behind the curtain" access to the philosophy and approach being taken by this embryonic American motorcycle company. These bikes are just what Ducati, Moto Guzzi, Triumph, Norton have needed for decades since the '60s: accessible, affordable, fun, learning and working machines. Pre Delivery Inspection (PDI) by each dealer is, in fact, the final stage of assembly. We are all on a learning curve with these machines. Thanks to Gardo, owners and riders participate in an unprecedented, exceedingly candid, transparent conversation that is positively impacting both the bikes on the road and those yet to be produced. They are 50 state legal, and sadly, being copied already by the less ethical in the marketplace. A decade from now, or maybe sooner, you will be admired for your prescient choice in acquiring any of the CCW offerings.

  • pj134

    They are slightly different from most Chinese bikes as they were originally going to be built in the US. According to what I've read from multiple sources, every fabricator they contacted said no for insurance reasons when they told them the parts were going to be used for a motorcycle. I guess they're in a stage now where they're trying to get the capitol so they can fabricate and build here, but it's an uphill battle.

    • fodder650

      Where did you read this? That's a shame if it's true

      • pj134

        2013 is their goal, but they're on their way according to this.
        (Edit: As I have found out, some NSFW, you may want to scroll quickly past some pictures as I did. Also, some political stuff, but that's neither here nor there.)

        …and I used the wrong "capitol"…


        • fodder650

          That's a shame that the interviewer was a dick and wasn't acting professional. I'm sorry I missed that article when I wrote this. Now I really want to see them succeed if they can pull the manufacturing back home. I would have never guessed that's why they went global

          • pj134

            I used their contact us page to shoot him an email so he can explain it better here if he wants.

            • fodder650

              I've read another article that interviewed him and reviewed the bikes and it seems he really has his head on straight. In fact I'd say I am downright impressed with his plans for the company. He's being honest about it's potential and not overselling it

  • anon

    (sort of NSFW-ish picture in the middle of the article.)
    (HFL has had great coverage of CCW that spoke more directly to the negative connotations of chinese-built, but most of that is paywalled. This mentions it briefly.)

    • fodder650

      Yeah that Bikermetric article is miserable. Who treats a company owner like that? Also your right the NSFW stuff comes out of nowhere

      • danleym

        For as awful as the interviewer was, at least the owner got to get his points out there. I gotta be honest, the more I read about these, the more I like. The only downside would be the top end, but maybe that wouldn't be so bad for a first bike. And $3K is completely doable…

        And yeah, the NSFW stuff? WTF? Out of place and just downright strange…

        • fodder650

          Now that I read about the hopup parts the company has it's a bit less important. Still it won't be a real barn burner. I looked forward to seeing what this company does with the 450 and 500's they have planned for the next couple of years.

          As for the NSFW stuff I think that comes out of the old tatoo magazines. That the bike culture requires cursing and that kind of thing.

          • danleym

            I don't know, out of morbid curiosity (and honestly, sheer boredom) I was cruising around the bikermetric site a little more, and I honestly think that guy is a little unstable. Half the time I couldn't figure out where he was going, and I'm not sure he could, either.

            • fodder650

              (shrug) that's why we have places like here

      • pj134

        At least Wes isn't an asshat. Their article got me interested in CCW.

        • fodder650

          Last month on one of these TWT stories I was asked to do a story on CCW. It might have been you actually. I'm thinking I might go find a local dealer and take a test ride.

          • pj134

            It was me, they're still up top for my first bike if ever I decide to buy one. The article was on one of the bloated American companies so I elbowed you in the ribs a bit. Too bad CCW seems to neglect our large portion of the state. I think Thurmont, MD for you and the wonderful hamlet of Camden (alright, so it's Pennsauken, it's close enough) for me.

            • fodder650

              Both are a couple hours from me. Let me go look if they have anything closer. With only 100 dealers I'm guessing not. Of course if I show up on the Victory they might laugh at me for wanting to see what it's like.

              "Really I'm looking for a 250cc to tow behind the Vision when I just want to ride around town"

              • pj134

                That would be awesome. I don't think East Stroudsburg is any closer for you.

                • fodder650

                  Yeah same distance as Thurmont actually. I'm kind of in the middle of nowhere

  • P. Frere

    Johnny Pag and the people at Hardknock have been doing much the same thing for quite some time. They both seem to be going concerns, so maybe there is more of a market for this kind of thing than we might assume.

    Regarding made in China two-wheelers, the scooters I've ridden and worked on a bit have just been atrocious. Made in Taiwan stuff has, on the other hand, been close to Japanese quality.

    • fodder650

      My local Victory dealer sells Johnny Pag actually. About the same price as well. They do catch the eye of a lot of people turned off by the more expensive bikes

  • CCW

    Hello, this is Scott from CCW: I received an email from a commenter linking me to this article.

    The idea of CCW is quite simple. We build the highest quality bikes we can, for a very reasonable price. The 250cc motor allows us to enter the market and be very competitive on pricing. If you have not ridden one of our 250's get on one and you will be smiling by the end of your ride. For under $3500 we have a ton of guys doing over 110 mph from just a few tweaks on our 250 bikes. These bike are extremely hoonable! You can throw wheelies all day on our Misfit and Ace. Our 450cc and 500cc bikes will be a bit more expensive and if all goes well MADE IN CLEVELAND in our new factory.

    Watch our actions, read the articles / reviews, talk to our customers and test ride our bikes before casting judgement. We believe in what we are doing and we love the bikes we build. By walking the walk, we know more people will understand what we are doing.


    • Nice to see you here, Scott. I dig small bikes, and I'd love to see you guys building engines in Cleveland (or anywhere else in the US). I'm particularly fond the the Misfit, but I'd really like to see you drop "tha" from your names in favor of "the". I don't know if regulars at Hooniverse.com are your target market, but I know I'm not the only one who objects to the stupid spelling.

      • CCW

        Well, this is a funny story of how we came up with the names, so bare with me here, and I will tell you why we have "tha"…….. and here we go

        "the" + "ace" for example, or "Cleveland" + "CycleWorks", or "the" + "heist" are considered common phrases to generic to trademark, and they were all rejected as they are not descriptive or unique as the words are just too common to ™.

        So after a few drinks….. I mean after a long and extensive corporate planning session, we had to come up with a way to protect the names legally. and THA was born…… Yea not perfect, not what we wanted, but legal, and protected :). Some people think it is dumb, but it is what it is. Most people just say I ride a Heist or a Misfit or a Cleveland Steamer……. You get the picture.

        Same with Cleveland CycleWerks. Kinda stupid to spell it like this, but we could not Trademark "Works" because again it is too common. So we would of had to be something like "Cleveland CycleWorks Motorcycle Manufacturing", I am not kidding and even that might have been rejected, so Cleveland CycleWerks was born, spelled wrong and creating issues for people who know how to spell.

        • fodder650

          Good afternoon I'm the writer for this article –

          See once you hear why you have made the decisions you have it all makes sense. You went with Chinese engines because you couldn't get an American company to do it. You went with "tha" over "the" because of trademarking. You are trying, and apparently succeeding, in bringing the manufacturing home as well.

          What I have written and begged for was an American company making entry level bikes for Americans. Honestly my only issue was the country of origin for the bike for obvious. Even with your assurance that you are working on quality control it still causes worry. Now with what i have seen in other reviews online the only complaint has been around the size of the small front wheel. Which is pretty much mandatory with that small bike size.

          Who did the design for the bikes? That is what has caught the attention of myself and everyone else. I stand by my calling them rolling pieces of art work. That even after you outgrow it you keep it as a piece of sculpture in your garage.

          Thank you for your time with these questions. Are there any test rides planned for the mid-atlantic states this year?
          Wayne Moyer

      • pj134

        I would bet at this point their target market is anyone with 3 grand…

  • Barnaby

    I was excited to see the Suzuki TU250X come to USA a couple years ago–pretty direct competition for these bikes. It's a retro bike with 250cc air-cooled single, but Fuel Injected! Drum brake on the back (which I think is fine) and not as fancy (on-paper at least) suspension, etc. as CCW. All reviews of the little TU250X have been pretty good. Think the first year color (wine red) was much better than current. $4K list price.

    <img src="http://www.popularmechanics.com/cm/popularmechanics/images/kh/suzuki-1-1009.jpg"&gt;

    • fodder650

      Yeah that TU250X is a good starter bike. In fact the 250cc class has seen a lot of really good metal move through it. The only one that consistently survives is the Ninja 250. The others come and go quickly

  • Gardo

    Interesting comments on the CCW bikes. As a CCW tha Heist rider I picked up my Heist last year #115 off the production line and the first bike registered in the NJ/NY/CT/PA area.

    I picked up my Heist April 2011 and as stated I now have more than 11000 miles on my lil pony. She carries me to work when the weather permits 50 miles round trip into Manhattan, NYC. Much longer rides on the weekend. It was not unheard of that I would do 300 miles in a day. Now in saying that, my bike has evolved over the past year. Playing with seat suspension, performance increases and styling. I have worked with http://www.Weaverrides.com to hone these mods and they have been applied to a number of other CCW bikes.

    Now its a great commuter, bar hopper, and cruiser but more often than not its the rider that can pull out the best from the machine.
    I rode my Heist down to Daytona,FL and back home to Jersey. Since coming home I have put another 300 miles on the bike this week. Its about regular maintenance I believe that has kept my scoot running so well.

    I have dedicated a youtube channel to my scoot as well as creating a public forum to educate other riders on the CCW bikes and share their experiences as well. I think that CCW has something here with a small displacement bike that looks good, rides well, and is easy to mod and wrench for a great price.

    ~Gardo http://www.ccwthariders.com http://www.youtube.com/user/drgnriderx?feature=mh

  • Steve Barber

    Please scroll up to my reply to Gardo's previous comment. In addition I offer this: CCW is an honest to goodness American motorcycle company creatively inventing itself and doing business in a very new and different world economy. There is much to learn from CCW's website. Give it a good look, especially the BLOG and PRESS sections. We are growing a dealership network by trying to carefully select dealers who are open minded motorcyclists / scooterists at heart. In the meantime our distributorship on the left coast and PIT motors / WeaverRides on the east coast are busting our butts to serve owners and potential owners without a dealer within 50 miles. Having seen over 54K manufacturing firms, between 2000 and 2008 tax incentivized to move overseas thereby putting 6-7m skilled American workers on the street, CCW is an encouraging sign of a renaissance in our economy. Simple, small displacement engines, made exclusively for CCW by "Honda of China" LIFAN, are not only inviting to those video gamers or first time riders seeking to learn engine mechanics and maintenance as well as those veteran wrenches who don't have a $30K computer needed to tune one's bike, but are also much more friendly to the environment and one's commute costs.

  • jon

    I have spent the last 5 years riding a heavily modified
    buell blast. i was one of those that chopped the
    tail down, put longer Harley forks on the front ,
    and a Harley exhaust , custom tank etc… however
    the reason i am here today, is because she was stolen.
    6 days ago. it's been crushing, and heartbreaking.
    but, time to find another ride. i can't afford Harley. plain and simple. i like modding bikes, so the CCW has
    caught my eye… i don't need speed or crazy power.
    i want fun. it won't be my buell, but nothing will. so i am
    curious to ride one soon. and for the guy who posted the
    buell jabs, Erik buell had an amazing goal, and a hell of a run with Harley. my bike.. definitely not a bitch bike.