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Tim Odell October 3, 2011 Announcements

Jeff Glucker Hooniverse

I’ve got good news and bad news. Contrary to procedure, here’s the good news: Jeff Glucker’s going to be back in action here at Hooniverse.

I’d love to leave it at that and move on. In fact, I really don’t want to be writing this post right now at all. I’m supposed to be fixing an exhaust leak and a demon-possessed starter switch on my Falcon in preparation for the SoCal TT.

I’ll give you an out: if you know why Jeff’s back and don’t care to discuss it further, move on to the next post or click on the comments link and welcome him back. If you don’t care, click on to the next post. If you want to know the backstory and care how it affects us, click through.

The forensics are as follows: Jeff Glucker picked up some side work (in addition to his main gig with Autoblog) with a firm promoting a Nissan Versa marketing campaign. Was paid to send an email blast to a number of contacts about it, as it’s the type of thing industry news-centric sites and social media folk tend to run with. He also wrote a post about the campaign on Autoblog, pretty much regurgitating the standard media announcement. Someone forwarded the email to Jalopnik and Mike Spinelli ran a post pointing out the conflict of interest between the email and the disclosure-free post on Autoblog. Autoblog responded that they were unaware of the conflict prior to the post, then terminated Jeff’s contract over the violation.

Jeff’s a personal friend of mine, a great guy, and an incredible Car Guy. On a whim (with no tools, skills or garage space), he bought the car that eventually became the Uberbird, and he’s a major reason why I started Hooniverse on a whim almost exactly two years ago. Jeff is not a greedy, unscrupulous schemer.

Brothers in…up to our arms in guibos…?

When we met, he was making grownup money at NADAguides doing ad sales and writing reviews on the side. When he was laid off as the economy turned south, rather than take the next good business-y job that came along, he bit the bullet and took a position at Autoblog making a (small) fraction of what he used to. Why? Because the guy loves cars (and his wife is pretty tolerant). He’d rather crank out press-release news posts all day for the occasional opportunity to ride shotgun in a ViperACR on track than slave away in a cube farm at a comfy, reliable job. This is not something I’ve got the balls for.

But Jeff screwed up. He took an unauthorized side-gig, reached out to a bunch of people in a well-connected community, then wrote a post about it himself. There’s an obvious conflict of interest there, but most frustrating was how dumb of a move that was. Being a car guy at heart, I know he thought just writing about some ad campaign without endorsing it or the car was no big deal. It’s not like he was altering a recommendation or opinion at the behest of someone else. Seriously, who cares, right?

Unfortunately, this is a line you do not cross. On the whole, we in the automotive media ask you to look past our free review cars and all-expenses-paid trips and trust us to give our real opinions. Despite some alarmism, we’re hoping you recognize our enthusiasm for something new is based on our actual optimism for it. That optimism turns out to be unfounded, at least it’s unfunded. We trust you’re smart enough to see our take on something as just one of many, and recognize that your own experience is what matters. However, this whole hand-wavey argument pretty much falls apart when you’ve got a hand in each cookie jar, and both behind your back (how much farther can I stretch this metaphor?).

I want, badly, to lash out and argue over this. I’ve written and deleted several paragraphs in this spot; clarifications to misinformation, pontifications on how this is more about feeding off of drama than actually journalistic integrity…but I also suspect you’re not coming here to see more arguing on the subject. In fact it’s  probably the opposite, so rather than stirring the shit stew one more time, let’s all move forward. This probably won’ t be the end of all discussion on the subject in the auto blogging world, but it will be on this site.

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Jeff’s back on board here at Hooniverse. Actually, he was always on-board, but now he’s back above ground and posting for us. I won’t be surprised if we catch flak for this, but that’s something I’m willing to accept. I suppose there are some who’d rather see him banished from The World of Cars for all time over this transgression. Personally, I strongly believe in the concept of forgiveness. Jeff knows he blew it. I’m willing to take him at his word and get back to the fun stuff.

That said, if we fail to learn from our mistakes, then we’ve failed in vain.  We’ve never had an explicit ethics/disclosure policy here, and that’s an error. From here on out, here’s our contract with you guys: Everything relevant will be disclosed. You’ll know who paid for our trips, and you’ll know what people’s relevant side-gigs are. If the site’s being used as a tool in someone’s marketing scheme, it’ll be obvious because I’m dead because content stays inside <–this box–> and advertising stays in the margins.

We’d like to pay our way for everything and buy/rent/steal all our review cars, but it’s simply not in the cards. We’re a crew of guys doing this in our spare time, and we think you’d rather have Nissan hook us up with a GTR or the Mullin Museum feed us dinner if that’s what it takes to bring you content. We can appreciate that some groups strive towards straight edge journalism, but these aren’t pacemakers we’re reviewing, they’re playthings. The end result of a pursuit of rational, passionless, ethically virginal automotive evaluation is Consumer Reports, but we’re pretty sure you didn’t come here to look for circle-dots, you came here for donuts. We’re not journalists; we’re car guys with a website who want to do cool stuff with cars and write it up for the world to see.

With Jeff back full time, joined by Kamil and the CarGuyDad crew, we think this is a great time for Hooniverse. We’ll be putting our extra resources to use to clean up the site and bring you, our beloved readers more of the stuff you love.

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Currently there are "136 comments" on this Article:

  1. Bobby Lee says:

    Man, J*lopnik talking about ethics? Thats funny.

  2. dukeisduke says:

    When I saw the story on AB last week, the first thing I wondered was, "So is he coming back to the Hooniverse"?

    Welcome back, Jeff.

    Rhetorical question: Is Hooniverse the Oakland Raiders of automotive blogs?

    (runs the Jolly Roger up the flagpole)

  3. $kaycog says:

    Welcome back, Mr. Glucker. Life goes on. The past is history (that's deep!)

  4. Tanshanomi says:

    A very classy and responsible response. Bravo.
    I love you guys. Now, back to busi—

    …ah, poor choice of wording. How about, "Now, back to talking about cars…"

    • only if you get back to talking about motorcycles ;)

      • Tanshanomi says:

        Full disclosure: in 1988 Kawasaki gave me a nice plane ride on American Airlines and a night's stay at the Santa Ana Marriott, while they interviewed me for a job I didn't get.

        Whew. It feels good to get that off my chest.

        • Devin says:

          This is confession time? I was actually in an elaborate Nissan contest involving the Cube a couple years ago. I entered it while waiting for my laundry to finish washing and then got into the final 500 for one of 50 of the things. Didn't win though.

          Also, some fuel additive company gave me a free shirt, lots of bands have given me free CDs and I've stolen donuts from every major political party in Canada.

        • rovingardener says:

          I won a trip to the BMW SUV factory and performance center(first place I've ever heard drive faster) and got dinner cooked by one of the guys on Master Chef, and I'm such an ingrate (poor college student without time) that I've never written about it in anything but an English course. And I'm a pretty good writer.

        • Maymar says:

          I'm driving my Civic on Honda's dime, won a lease at last year's auto show. I still think the ride sucks, but I appreciate they went with that compromise. I do wish I could see some of the car outside of the passenger compartment, I refuse to believe I've got a hood or trunk.

  5. mdharrell says:

    Whoa, whoa, whoa. Hooniverse just issued a position statement on ethics? This is too many changes all at once, guys. You should finish sorting out the matter of fabulous prizes first. I'm willing to take your personal integrity on faith when it comes to your assessment of the off-road capabilities of the Pinto Runabout.

    Oh, and welcome back, Jeff.

    • mr. mzs zsm msz esq says:

      Ha, a while Back Biggles was having trouble locating a book that I has at home. So I left a comment like, "email the tips line, they can get you my email address." The next time I checked my email, I had three news ones about this:

      First was one from someone to the effect of I sent your email address to Mr. Biggles.

      Then another one from Mr. Biggles that someone (else) had given him my email address, how can he get that book.

      The last was from Tim, saying basically you might not believe this, but we have a personal information privacy policy and someone wants to get a hold of you, i]s it okay if we give-out your email address?

      I thanked Tim, saying "I like that policy."

      Welcome back Jeff.

  6. muthalovin says:

    Welcome back, Jeff. You have been missed.

    My only comment on the AB thing was that Jeff's byline could very well have been Autoblog Staff. Indeed, learn from ones mistakes, and enjoy the community here.

  7. NMRA Nick says:

    Welcome back, Jeff.

    @Bobby Lee: I had the same reaction.

  8. Devin says:

    It's not if you screw up, everyone does that eventually, it's how you learn from that screw up. That might be a platitude, but I suspect Jeff is going to handle side-gigs much differently in the future.

    And, to get a dig in that might be unfair, certain other places have screwed up and learned nothing from it, such as a certain website network which insists on a design that makes it basically unreadable.

  9. Man I look fat in that last picture

  10. RichardKopf says:

    The easy thing to do here would be to blacklist Jeff; make him the pariah, see to it that he never works in the industry again.
    But this is the Hooniverse, and we don't do easy here. A car guy is a car guy, and we stand by him while he gets back on his feet again.
    Welcome back, Jeff.

  11. Froggmann_ says:

    You know what? Scandal or not I don't give a crap. I come here for the articles done by people that know more than I do about vehicles I sometimes didn't even know existed. Jeff is one of those people and I welcome him back.

  12. dukeisduke says:

    So, what are you going to write about first, Jeff?

  13. OA5599 says:

    Welcome back, Jeff.

    Everybody Glucks up every now and then, but when it happens, most of us don't have it turn into a lede story.

  14. fede6882 says:

    not too much to say, just welcome back jeff!

  15. engineerd says:

    This was a dirty situation made dirtier by a lack of class.

    And now I'm done.

    Welcome back, Jeff. I'm glad to see Tim let you out of your cage. I'm even more glad that this little community is willing to look beyond any error in judgement, forgive and welcome you back with open arms. I just hope the majority of the automotive media is doing the same. And if they aren't, then f*ck 'em.

  16. Number_Six says:

    With apologies to Tanshanomi:

    There once was a writer in SoCal
    Whose personal foul was made very public:
    An Internet "friend" wanted his career to soon end
    And pilloried him like a dick.

    /let's get on with our regularly scheduled foolishness

  17. scroggzilla says:

    Welcome home, Jeff.

  18. SSurfer321 says:

    I just want to say how disappointed I am in some "media-news outlets" that used the name of professional when the story would have been just as poignant by stating "staff member/reporter/blogger". I found that VERY unprofessional.

    Welcome back Jeff. I've missed reading your reviews over here.

  19. Mr_Biggles says:

    The whys and wherefores become unimportant in very short order. Looking forward to your articles again here on Hooniverse, Jeff.

  20. pj134 says:

    Does "ethics" mean I have to wear pants now? Or is it just staff that'll have to wear pants? Also, I was told there would be donuts.

  21. Tomsk says:

    Welcome back Jeff. And good on ya for taking the high road, Tim; it's a shame not everyone in this business is able to and/or wants to do the same.

  22. njhoon says:

    Wait, I'm confused. I thought Uberbird was a Mr Mad Science creation, my world is spinning now. As for the other stuff, This to shall pass. Welcome back, Jeff. Seems to me to a mountian was made out of a small mole hill and in the very near future it will be barely a bump in the rear view mirror.

    • Thanks.

      I was the one who originally plunked down for the 633 CSI. Tim would NEVER have purchased an autobox-equipped BMW.

    • Yup, Jeff made the original poor decision, I just volunteered time, money and my neighbors' property values.

      Check the link in the post to the original thread on Autofiends, courtesy of a semi-exiled Lieberman.

      Man, that site had potential…alas…

  23. rovingardener says:

    Glad you're back. Your contributions are missed.

  24. PowerTryp says:

    I look forward to the post showing everything you did to that Versa in order to get it to do donuts.

  25. PowerTryp says:

    Unfortunate circumstances can sometimes lead to the greatest of opportunities.

    Glad to have you back Jeff.

  26. James says:

    Haha. I'd rather Jeff Glucker be here, than Autoblog. It's a crime to trap such a vivid, interesting writer in such a gawdawful boring site. I was hoping you'd find further employment Jeff, I always enjoyed your writing.

  27. MrHowser says:

    You wanna talk mistakes… I just changed the oil on the wife's car, and it was an embarrassingly large number of quarts low. Whoops! Now to track down the cause…

    Glad you're back, Jeff.

    Also, props to Tim for a calm and professional explanation of the relevant details.

    • ptschett says:

      You reminded me of a time some months after the '73 Cougar became my sister's car. She'd mentioned that it had been a while since she checked the oil on the Cougar, so being the nice big brother that I am I wrestled the hood open and pulled out the dipstick. I didn't see any oil, so I added a quart. Still no oil, so another quart… finally there was a drop or two on the dipstick. The 3rd quart got it into the safe range. This on a car with a 5 qt. oil pan.

    • FuzzyPlushroom says:

      Imagine a Volvo 740 with a failing turbo. I just check it every hundred miles and add half a quart or more. Yep, I know what I'm doing later this week.

      • MrHowser says:

        Were it my Jeep shedding oil, I feel pretty confident I could determine the cause and fix it. This van has very little room to work under the hood, which is disappointing.

  28. name_too_long says:

    Wait, what's all this about "disclosure" at Hooniverse? I'd always assumed the *reason* for creating the site was to get automakers to loan you expensive cars and pay for shit. I thought "take as many perks as possible" was part of the mission statement.

    I feel confused and betrayed.

    • mdharrell says:

      No, it's cool. If they all disclose the extent to which they're on the take, maybe we can guilt them into buying everyone donuts from time to time.

      The danger, of course, is that if it turns out the industry doesn't see them as worth bribing, then they'll probably try guilting us into buying them some donuts instead.

  29. B72 says:

    Hey, I remember you from Redacted. Welcome to the land of the less uptight!

  30. VolvoNut says:

    really? this is a concern? my lord.

  31. highmileage_v1 says:

    Looking forward to Uberbird, Part Deux, The Seized Bearing.

  32. Charles_Barrett says:

    In a discussion on this very topic on Facebook last Friday, I wrote:
    As an enthusiast and dilettante, I do not apply the same ethical, conflict-of-interest "smell test" to automotive, fashion, or lifestyle journalism as I apply to political or financial reporting. When I read about $700 Prada shoes in GQ or $350,000 Maybachs in C&D, my interest is held or lost by the writer and his or her style, not whether they have that Burberry overcoat in their closet and whether or not they paid full retail for it. I obviously would not be good at navigating the ethical obstacle course involved in product reviewing.

    Nevertheless, I continue to trust Jeff's observations and opinions on the subject, and enjoy his writing style immensely.
    Welcome back, Mr. Glucker…!

  33. Thrashy says:

    So maybe Jeff screwed up a little. Does that matter here? Do you kick out a regular at the local dive bar because he screwed up at work? No, you buy him a beer and shake your fists at The Man together! Welcome back, Jeff.

  34. Van sarockin says:

    So who do I have to talk to about those dozen Versas I bought on Jeff's recommendation? They are not desert toppings, nor are they shoe polish! Worse, ninety five percent of the time, they have not worked every time for pulling chicks.

    Ethics in journalism is a serious thing – in any kind of journalism. If a writer can't be listened to and believed by his readership, then he doesn't have much to offer. I've personally seen two serious lapses by other folks, and they have had serious repercussions. Best for lessons to be taken to heart in this fairly minor incident, and everyone move on far wiser.

  35. Mad_Hungarian says:

    I'm glad that Hooniverse has given Jeff a place to continue practicing his craft in good company. Frankly, I thought what "J" did was rather cheesy. If you're feeling the need to be a boy scout, phone or email the editors at Autoblog and say hey, did you notice that . . . , and let them decide what punishment to mete out. Don't go public and show them up, forcing them to fire the guy. Has nobody at "J" ever made a mistake? Not every error should be a firing offense. Heck, how many guys are out there whose mistake was to bring down our entire financial system ("sure, let's keep selling and reselling those subprime mortgages, we don't need any stinking due diligence") and all they got was a bonus.

    • The Professor says:

      The mooks over at Brand X come off as a bunch of holier-than-thou posers. They'd probably rat each other out if given half a chance, just for the story.

  36. Maymar says:

    For the record, if I ever see anything positive posted about the Austin Allegro, I'll be mighty suspicious. Which begs the question, is the Versa a reliable Japanese (perhaps somewhat redundant) Allegro? If not, which car "earns" that auspicious title?

    Either way, welcome back!

    • mdharrell says:

      Even as the sympathetic driver of another oft-maligned Austin product, I admit I had difficulty coming up with something positive to say about the Allegro. I think I've succeeded, however:

      <img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4140/4800352890_4075a5d77b.jpg&quot; width="250">

      They stack well.

    • Devin says:

      My fascination with failure and garbage makes me want to justify liking the Vanden Plas Allegro, but then I realize I like it solely because it's a big bundle of bad ideas. The idea that it could actually make it into production and get sold to a reluctant nation fascinates me.

      <img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3506/3875297852_a2c535dbd3.jpg"&gt;

    • Mad_Hungarian says:

      You could say that kinda-sorta, in a very roundabout way, it is — as the earliest Datsuns were copies of some kind of Austin, and the Versa as the smallest (in North America at least) Nissan is the successor to those Datsuns, and the Allegro is a successor to those Austins on which the old Datsuns were based . . . it's like being third cousins once removed, and in the part of Georgia where I live, some people actually keep track of their relations that far down the line.

  37. The Professor says:

    What? He's forgiven? What the hell am I supposed to do with all of these pitchforks and torches?

    /Welcome back Jeff.

  38. coupeZ600 says:

    I raced bicycles for many years, and while I never rose above the level of a half-assed domestique, I truly loved it. The sense of camaraderie of those of us 'off the back" was awesome, totally unlike the people up front that were obsessed by the Win. We had done our job, asploded, and fallen back to where people actually helped each other.

    My favorite memories out of all those years were not of when on the rare occasion I was up front and thought I might actually win, but being way back, miles behind the leaders on a really big hill, and trying to make the guys next to you laugh so hard they couldn't ride anymore.

    "Pick It Up And RUN!" (an old cyclo-cross term) you'd say/be told as everybody pedaled away, knowing that at the top everybody would be back together again.

    Welcome Back, Jeff.

  39. Mechanically Inept says:

    When this whole story surfaced, I was surprised both at Jalopnik's audacity to make such a fuss over "matters of journalistic integrity", as well as the speed with which the story circulated through the blogosphere. For Wert & Co. to cry foul over a relatively minor slip-up, when they have produced nothing remotely resembling journalism for a few years is just unbelievable, a sentiment that was echoed by a number of commentors on their story. And Autoblog really should have grown a pair and called out this deficiency between what Jalopnik says and actually does, but it's all water under the bridge now.

    Good to have Jeff back, and I think that Hooniverse has done a pretty admirable job over the past two years of creating a community and bringing together vast swaths of obscure automotive knowledge. I don't think that any additional ethics investigations are required here, as the new car reviews are fairly few and far between, and nobody here is all that interested in new car reviews, anyway. Even if there were to be some corporate ass-kissing, I'm sure it would be called out by the commentors, who would almost certainly be talking out of their ass, giving opinions of a car they have never driven. And even if you guys were being paid by the manufacturers to write favorable reviews, with money or sex or vacations, why should I care? It's a car website on the internet, can't we all just enjoy ourselves? I know I'd jump at the opportunity to drive press cars, and I'd probably rave about every single one of them. Sell my soul for a paycheck, we've all done it before.

    Disclaimer: I read Jalopnik for the comments, and I kinda like their new format. I read autoblog for the new car reviews. I read motor trend for the new car reviews. I read Car & Driver for their performance statistics. I read TTAC for Murilee Martin. I do not read British car rags, because I cannot afford to pay $10 for a magazine. I'm writing this at 4 in the morning, which may impair my judgement. I am not a crook.

    What were we talking about again?

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